Centuri Thunder Roc

Centuri - Thunderroc {Kit} (5340) [1980-1983]

Contributed by Bill Eichelberger

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Flight Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Overall Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Manufacturer: Centuri
Style: Sport

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocBrief:
In t' somewhat select world o' "BIG" model rockets, shiver me timbers, ("BIG" bein' a relative term referrin' t' t' days before 20 foot tall high-power rockets,) few if any can hold a candle t' t' Estes Mean Machine from the standpoint o' sheer size. Well, blow me down! While t' Mean Machine does define "BIG" with authority, ya bilge rat, it also presents t' modeler with a unique set o' challenges, namely storage, transportability, matey, me hearties, and when painted in it's traditional black color, ya bilge rat, an unfortunate tendency t' warp in t' sun. Ahoy! Begad! All o' these "cons" were in mind when I found a Mean Machine at a recent Hobby Lobby 1/2 off sale, but t' sale made t' price too friendly t' pass on. Blimey! The Machine languished among t' cobwebs o' me "banned from sight" second-hand Steelcase desk for quite a while, but inspiration struck me as I paged through me copy o' t' 1981 Centuri catalog. Avast! Begad! Buildin' t' Mean Machine still didn't hold much interest for me but usin' me bargain basement Machine to clone t' seldom seen Centuri Thunder Roc did. Arrr! T' Thunder Roc is one o' a short list o' post-merger Centuri rockets that were sold as Centuri kits while usin' Estes parts. Ahoy! At t' time this probably seemed like t' ultimate slap in the face t' in-the-know Centuri fans, but twenty years on it sure makes cloning these rockets a much more simple undertaking. Ahoy! Blimey!

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocConstruction:

  • 3 full length BT-60 body tubes
  • 2 BT-60 tube couplers
  • Estes E- Engine hook
  • 1/8" balsa fin stock
  • PNC-60AH
  • Estes 24" nylon parachute
  • 9" BT-50 engine tube
  • 2050 engine block
  • 2 5060 centerin' rings
  • 5055 centerin' rin' as engine hook hold-down
  • 2 3/16" launch lugs
  • 60" sewin' elastic
  • heavy duty snap swivel
  • Plumbers Epoxy Putty
  • decals

While t' Mean Machine t' Thunder Roc conversion appears t' be a simple project at first, it's size alone makes several modifications if nay necessary, then at least suggested. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Since t' Thunder Roc is just a Mean Machine with one less section o' BT-60 and one fewer fin, me bucko, me bucko, I alternated betwixt usin' t' current Estes instruction sheet for t' Mean Machine and t' Thunder Roc sheets from JimZ's site. Aye aye! Ya scallywag! Blimey! T' Thunder Roc is little more than a tall 3FNC rocket and most of the construction went on with nary a problem. Well, blow me down! I used Elmer's Wood Glue for the whole project, me bucko, arrr, fillets included, ya bilge rat, but that was one area where deviatin' from the plan be necessary. Ahoy! Blimey! I had t' body finished and had sprayed on t' first coat of primer, then stood it up t' allow t' top o' t' body tube t' dry. Ahoy! Spray paintin' in July can be thirsty work, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, and I went inside for a drink, leaving the primered rocket standin' on a stray cooler. Arrr! Since it had been a still, windless day, I hadn't figured on havin' t' deal with anythin' resemblin' a breeze. Arrr! Begad! Blimey! I should have. Begad! Arrr! Blimey! Thirty minutes later I came back out onto t' porch to find t' rocket keeled over with one fin broken off, another fillet broken, and a crease in t' body tube. Ahoy! Blimey! My weekend plans t' test fly t' primered carcass had been scuttled just that quickly. Ya scallywag! (I had been drinkin' Sugar Free Kool Aid, which I regard as proof that clean livin' will get you nowhere.)

Clearly t' old method o' filletin' t' fins be nay up t' t' task on this project. Ya scallywag! Blimey! If a fall from an 18" high cooler could do that much damage, shiver me timbers, I was afraid that t' fall from D-powered heights would have me gluin' fins (or worse, matey, pieces o' fins) back on with each flight. Arrr! Avast, me proud beauty! Epoxy was t' next logical step but in a different form. I had bought a tube o' Plumber's Epoxy Putty several weeks earlier with t' intention o' tryin' t' make fillets with it. The Thunder Roc seemed like t' perfect test subject. Aye aye!

T' putty comes in an "airtight" tube and looks like a piece of Cow Tail candy gone horribly wrong. Avast, me proud beauty! As long as t' two shades o' grey remain separate, t' putty will remain flexible, me bucko, but once you activate t' putty by kneadin' t' two colors together, you are effectively beginnin' t' curing process. Ya scallywag! Aye aye! I found that t' putty mixed easier if I kept dippin' me fingers in water. Ahoy! Arrr! This kept t' putty from stickin' t' me hands and seemed t' make it more pliable. (Unfortunately nothin' seemed t' take t' stink o' t' epoxy out o' my fingers.) Once it be mixed t' a uniform color I began spreadin' it in t' area between t' fin root and t' body tube, just like you would when makin' a normal glue fillet. Ahoy! Some practice is necessary t' keep t' fillets from turning out too clunky. Ahoy! My first two fillets turned out just this way but it just made the placement o' t' launch lugs that much easier. Begad! (They're on t' side o' the body tube with t' fat fillets and are attached with a set o' fairly chunky fillets all their own.) I had originally thought that t' increased weight of the fillets would have made t' addition o' clay t' t' nose cone a necessary precaution, but a swin' test showed that t' CP/CG relationship remained pretty much in line. I chalked this up t' t' increased weight o' t' Estes nylon chute and crossed me fingers.

Finishing:
OOP - Centuri Thunder Roc After all o' t' pieces for this rocket had been pounded together, arrr, I coated the entire structure with thinned Elmer's Fill 'n' Finish. Aye aye! Arrr! If you're one o' those rare souls who enjoy sanding, me bucko, this rocket should be right down your pike. There's a whole lot o' surface area t' be sanded, includin' two tube connections that are bound t' take some extra fillin' and sanding. Begad! I'm nay one of those who enjoys this part o' t' build process, me bucko, and me particular version of this rocket took quite a bit o' extra fillin' and sanding. Blimey! Avast! It all turned out to be worth it in t' end. Avast! While t' fillets are admittedly large, me hearties, t' whole rocket looks smooth and solid. Avast! My hands may never recover but I can grip my Thunder Roc in me misshapen claw and be proud o' t' job I did. Avast! Begad! (Well, matey, not actively sickened.) After paintin' t' entire rocket with three coats of Valspar Gloss White paint, I masked off t' bottom portion and sprayed it with Valspar Cherry Red Gloss. (That was t' closest I found t' t' suggested "Warm Red" in t' Centuri instructions, me bucko, but t' instructions actually said any bright color would do.) T' paint colors alone would make this rocket stand out even if it wasn't five and a half feet tall, but t' height doesn't hurt. Ahoy! Well, arrr, blow me down! Decals were made usin' Bel Decal inkjet decal paper and were printed on a LexMark Optra printer, me bucko, which I've found gives very satisfactory results when the decals are all black. Arrr! After t' decals had been applied, I coated the entire rocket with Krylon Acrylic clearcoat. Avast! This was t' same clear that I had used in coatin' t' decals before applyin' them, me bucko, but I wound up with markedly different results this time. Arrr! Well, blow me down! T' decals crinkled slightly in several spots but worst o' all, ya bilge rat, me hearties, t' black ink dulled. Aye aye! Arrr! I let things cure for several weeks after this problem surfaced, then resprayed t' entire rocket with a coat o' Valspar Clear Gloss. This seems t' have taken care o' t' problem quite nicely as the black decal looks great once again. Well, blow me down!

Construction Rating: 5 out o' 5

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocFlight:
It took a while, me hearties, includin' several crushin' disappointments, arrr, but I finally managed t' work in a day when I could get out t' launch t' Thunder Roc. Although I had built several new rockets in t' two months that I wasn't flying, arrr, me hearties, t' Thunder Roc was first on t' pad for me at VOA on what had turned out t' be a perfect day t' fly. Arrr! Blimey! Avast! Blimey! With an almost total absence o' wind, I decided to go with a D12-5 for t' first flight. I had intended t' use perma waddin' on this rocket but got distracted when gluin' in t' motor mount and realized it too late. Begad! Blimey! This was little more than a minor irritant and I loaded t' rocket with a fairly heavy load o' dog barf before I installed t' nylon parachute. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I had used t' standard 3/16" Mean Machine launch lugs, ya bilge rat, arrr, but they turned out to be a tight fit on t' 3/16" rod. I switched t' a longer, ya bilge rat, but slimmer rod, me bucko, but so much o' t' Thunder Roc's mass is above t' launch lugs that it moves in even t' slightest breeze. Ahoy! Blimey! This turned out t' be a big problem as several times t' rocket shifted enough t' cross t' wires or even pull one of the clips off o' t' ignitors. Ahoy! Blimey! I finally got it secured with t' addition o' a D engine carcass t' act as an extra stand off. Begad! Blimey! T' rocket whipped somewhat as it left t' pad, me hearties, me hearties, but straightened out smartly and flew majestically t' a higher altitude than I had been lead t' expect.

Recovery:
OOP - Centuri Thunder Roc I was determined that t' Achilles Heel o' t' Thunder Roc wasn't goin' t' be it's recovery system. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, blow me down! With this in mind I went with t' Quest method o' anchoring the shock cord by knottin' and gluin' a length o' Keelhaul®©™® cord in place with t' engine block. Ya scallywag! I ran t' Keelhaul®©™® to within six inches o' t' top o' t' body tube, then attached a five foot length o' 1/4" sewin' elastic and an Estes nylon parachute. Aye aye! Well, blow me down! It seemed like overkill, but t' recovery system seemed like t' place t' go overboard with a rocket o' this size. Avast, me proud beauty! Ejection occurred at apogee, and t' rocket recovered with much t' same majesty as it had flown with, shiver me timbers, stretchin' out t' 10+ feet and driftin' slowly t' t' ground. Blimey! Begad! T' recovery walk was a little more than normal, but t' rocket landed in a soft patch o' weeds and showed no ill effects of it's flight. Avast, me proud beauty! I chalked this up t' t' non-reefed nylon chute, matey, ya bilge rat, but then this was the whole reason for choosin' it. I'll walk a little extra for a safe recovery on a rocket o' this size any day.

Flight Rating: 5 out o' 5

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocSummary:
It's hard t' find fault with a project like this. Avast! Startin' with t' Estes Mean Machine means that you will nay only have a proven baseline t' start with, but can also gather all most o' t' parts you'll need for t' project by buyin' one kit. Ya scallywag! While Mean Machine flights aren't exactly common, arrr, they are seen far more often than t' Machine's Centuri-based little brother.

PROs:

  • Easier t' transport and store than an Estes Mean Machine while still being noticeably "BIG".
  • Majestic flights.
  • If you make it usin' a stock Estes Mean Machine kit, you'll have enough parts left over t' give you a good start on two Mach 10 clones.

CONs:

  • You'd better have a big rod ready if you plan t' fly with t' big boys.

Overall Rating: 5 out o' 5

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