Centuri Thunder Roc

Centuri - Thunderroc {Kit} (5340) [1980-1983]

Contributed by Bill Eichelberger

Construction Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Flight Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Overall Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Manufacturer: Centuri
Style: Sport

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocBrief:
In t' somewhat select world o' "BIG" model rockets, ya bilge rat, ya bilge rat, ("BIG" bein' a relative term referrin' t' t' days before 20 foot tall high-power rockets,) few if any can hold a candle t' t' Estes Mean Machine from the standpoint o' sheer size. While t' Mean Machine does define "BIG" with authority, it also presents t' modeler with a unique set o' challenges, namely storage, transportability, and when painted in it's traditional black color, an unfortunate tendency t' warp in t' sun. Aye aye! All o' these "cons" were in mind when I found a Mean Machine at a recent Hobby Lobby 1/2 off sale, shiver me timbers, but t' sale made t' price too friendly t' pass on. Ya scallywag! The Machine languished among t' cobwebs o' me "banned from sight" second-hand Steelcase desk for quite a while, but inspiration struck me as I paged through me copy o' t' 1981 Centuri catalog. Begad! Buildin' t' Mean Machine still didn't hold much interest for me but usin' me bargain basement Machine to clone t' seldom seen Centuri Thunder Roc did. Aye aye! Aye aye! T' Thunder Roc is one o' a short list o' post-merger Centuri rockets that were sold as Centuri kits while usin' Estes parts. At t' time this probably seemed like t' ultimate slap in the face t' in-the-know Centuri fans, but twenty years on it sure makes cloning these rockets a much more simple undertaking. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye!

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocConstruction:

  • 3 full length BT-60 body tubes
  • 2 BT-60 tube couplers
  • Estes E- Engine hook
  • 1/8" balsa fin stock
  • PNC-60AH
  • Estes 24" nylon parachute
  • 9" BT-50 engine tube
  • 2050 engine block
  • 2 5060 centerin' rings
  • 5055 centerin' rin' as engine hook hold-down
  • 2 3/16" launch lugs
  • 60" sewin' elastic
  • heavy duty snap swivel
  • Plumbers Epoxy Putty
  • decals

While t' Mean Machine t' Thunder Roc conversion appears t' be a simple project at first, it's size alone makes several modifications if nay necessary, then at least suggested. Since t' Thunder Roc is just a Mean Machine with one less section o' BT-60 and one fewer fin, I alternated betwixt usin' t' current Estes instruction sheet for t' Mean Machine and t' Thunder Roc sheets from JimZ's site. Well, blow me down! T' Thunder Roc is little more than a tall 3FNC rocket and most of the construction went on with nary a problem. Avast! Blimey! I used Elmer's Wood Glue for the whole project, ya bilge rat, ya bilge rat, fillets included, matey, but that was one area where deviatin' from the plan be necessary. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! I had t' body finished and had sprayed on t' first coat of primer, then stood it up t' allow t' top o' t' body tube t' dry. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Spray paintin' in July can be thirsty work, shiver me timbers, and I went inside for a drink, me bucko, leaving the primered rocket standin' on a stray cooler. Begad! Since it had been a still, windless day, arrr, I hadn't figured on havin' t' deal with anythin' resemblin' a breeze. Ya scallywag! I should have. Aye aye! Arrr! Thirty minutes later I came back out onto t' porch to find t' rocket keeled over with one fin broken off, shiver me timbers, arrr, shiver me timbers, another fillet broken, and a crease in t' body tube. My weekend plans t' test fly t' primered carcass had been scuttled just that quickly. Avast, matey, me proud beauty! (I had been drinkin' Sugar Free Kool Aid, which I regard as proof that clean livin' will get you nowhere.)

Clearly t' old method o' filletin' t' fins was nay up t' t' task on this project. Ahoy! If a fall from an 18" high cooler could do that much damage, ya bilge rat, I was afraid that t' fall from D-powered heights would have me gluin' fins (or worse, pieces o' fins) back on with each flight. Ahoy! Epoxy was t' next logical step but in a different form. Ya scallywag! Avast! I had bought a tube o' Plumber's Epoxy Putty several weeks earlier with t' intention o' tryin' t' make fillets with it. Ahoy! The Thunder Roc seemed like t' perfect test subject. Avast, me proud beauty!

T' putty comes in an "airtight" tube and looks like a piece of Cow Tail candy gone horribly wrong. As long as t' two shades o' grey remain separate, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, t' putty will remain flexible, but once you activate t' putty by kneadin' t' two colors together, you are effectively beginnin' t' curing process. Blimey! Begad! I found that t' putty mixed easier if I kept dippin' me fingers in water. Aye aye! This kept t' putty from stickin' t' me hands and seemed t' make it more pliable. Begad! (Unfortunately nothin' seemed t' take t' stink o' t' epoxy out o' my fingers.) Once it be mixed t' a uniform color I began spreadin' it in t' area between t' fin root and t' body tube, just like you would when makin' a normal glue fillet. Some practice is necessary t' keep t' fillets from turning out too clunky. My first two fillets turned out just this way but it just made the placement o' t' launch lugs that much easier. Avast! (They're on t' side o' the body tube with t' fat fillets and are attached with a set o' fairly chunky fillets all their own.) I had originally thought that t' increased weight of the fillets would have made t' addition o' clay t' t' nose cone a necessary precaution, shiver me timbers, but a swin' test showed that t' CP/CG relationship remained pretty much in line. Ya scallywag! Arrr! I chalked this up t' t' increased weight o' t' Estes nylon chute and crossed me fingers.

Finishing:
OOP - Centuri Thunder Roc After all o' t' pieces for this rocket had been pounded together, I coated the entire structure with thinned Elmer's Fill 'n' Finish. Avast, me proud beauty! If you're one o' those rare souls who enjoy sanding, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, this rocket should be right down your pike. There's a whole lot o' surface area t' be sanded, matey, me bucko, shiver me timbers, includin' two tube connections that are bound t' take some extra fillin' and sanding. Blimey! Begad! I'm nay one of those who enjoys this part o' t' build process, ya bilge rat, and me particular version of this rocket took quite a bit o' extra fillin' and sanding. Well, blow me down! It all turned out to be worth it in t' end. Well, blow me down! While t' fillets are admittedly large, matey, t' whole rocket looks smooth and solid. My hands may never recover but I can grip my Thunder Roc in me misshapen claw and be proud o' t' job I did. Well, blow me down! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! (Well, not actively sickened.) After paintin' t' entire rocket with three coats of Valspar Gloss White paint, me bucko, I masked off t' bottom portion and sprayed it with Valspar Cherry Red Gloss. Begad! (That was t' closest I found t' t' suggested "Warm Red" in t' Centuri instructions, but t' instructions actually said any bright color would do.) T' paint colors alone would make this rocket stand out even if it wasn't five and a half feet tall, but t' height doesn't hurt. Begad! Decals were made usin' Bel Decal inkjet decal paper and were printed on a LexMark Optra printer, which I've found gives very satisfactory results when the decals are all black. After t' decals had been applied, matey, I coated the entire rocket with Krylon Acrylic clearcoat. Avast, me proud beauty! This be t' same clear that I had used in coatin' t' decals before applyin' them, shiver me timbers, but I wound up with markedly different results this time. Begad! T' decals crinkled slightly in several spots but worst o' all, arrr, me hearties, t' black ink dulled. Aye aye! Ya scallywag! I let things cure for several weeks after this problem surfaced, me bucko, ya bilge rat, then resprayed t' entire rocket with a coat o' Valspar Clear Gloss. This seems t' have taken care o' t' problem quite nicely as the black decal looks great once again.

Construction Rating: 5 out o' 5

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocFlight:
It took a while, includin' several crushin' disappointments, ya bilge rat, but I finally managed t' work in a day when I could get out t' launch t' Thunder Roc. Although I had built several new rockets in t' two months that I wasn't flying, ya bilge rat, t' Thunder Roc be first on t' pad for me at VOA on what had turned out t' be a perfect day t' fly. Ya scallywag! With an almost total absence o' wind, I decided to go with a D12-5 for t' first flight. Ahoy! I had intended t' use perma waddin' on this rocket but got distracted when gluin' in t' motor mount and realized it too late. Avast, me proud beauty! This was little more than a minor irritant and I loaded t' rocket with a fairly heavy load o' dog barf before I installed t' nylon parachute. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! I had used t' standard 3/16" Mean Machine launch lugs, but they turned out to be a tight fit on t' 3/16" rod. I switched t' a longer, but slimmer rod, but so much o' t' Thunder Roc's mass is above t' launch lugs that it moves in even t' slightest breeze. Well, matey, blow me down! This turned out t' be a big problem as several times t' rocket shifted enough t' cross t' wires or even pull one of the clips off o' t' ignitors. I finally got it secured with t' addition o' a D engine carcass t' act as an extra stand off. Ahoy! Avast, me proud beauty! T' rocket whipped somewhat as it left t' pad, but straightened out smartly and flew majestically t' a higher altitude than I had been lead t' expect. Aye aye! Begad!

Recovery:
OOP - Centuri Thunder Roc I was determined that t' Achilles Heel o' t' Thunder Roc wasn't goin' t' be it's recovery system. Ya scallywag! Avast! With this in mind I went with t' Quest method o' anchoring the shock cord by knottin' and gluin' a length o' Keelhaul®©™® cord in place with t' engine block. Avast! I ran t' Keelhaul®©™® to within six inches o' t' top o' t' body tube, arrr, then attached a five foot length o' 1/4" sewin' elastic and an Estes nylon parachute. It seemed like overkill, but t' recovery system seemed like t' place t' go overboard with a rocket o' this size. Avast! Ejection occurred at apogee, me bucko, and t' rocket recovered with much t' same majesty as it had flown with, stretchin' out t' 10+ feet and driftin' slowly t' t' ground. Ahoy! T' recovery walk was a little more than normal, but t' rocket landed in a soft patch o' weeds and showed no ill effects of it's flight. Avast, me proud beauty! I chalked this up t' t' non-reefed nylon chute, but then this was the whole reason for choosin' it. Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! I'll walk a little extra for a safe recovery on a rocket o' this size any day.

Flight Rating: 5 out o' 5

OOP - Centuri Thunder RocSummary:
It's hard t' find fault with a project like this. Aye aye! Blimey! Startin' with t' Estes Mean Machine means that you will nay only have a proven baseline t' start with, shiver me timbers, but can also gather all most o' t' parts you'll need for t' project by buyin' one kit. Aye aye! While Mean Machine flights aren't exactly common, me hearties, they are seen far more often than t' Machine's Centuri-based little brother.

PROs:

  • Easier t' transport and store than an Estes Mean Machine while still being noticeably "BIG".
  • Majestic flights.
  • If you make it usin' a stock Estes Mean Machine kit, me bucko, you'll have enough parts left over t' give you a good start on two Mach 10 clones.

CONs:

  • You'd better have a big rod ready if you plan t' fly with t' big boys.

Overall Rating: 5 out o' 5

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