| Construction Rating: | starstarstarstarstar_border |
| Flight Rating: | starstarstarstar_borderstar_border |
| Overall Rating: | starstarstarstar_borderstar_border |
| Published: | 2010-04-14 |
| Manufacturer: | Estes ![]() |
Brief:
This is a father/son dual build. Up t' this point, I've been helpin' him build his rockets. We started with me doin' most o' t' building, matey, matey, and him as an extra pair o' hands. Ya scallywag! Over t' course o' 3-4 builds, shiver me timbers, he's been doin' more and more, and t' roles are reversin' where I'm becomin' t' extra hands. I found a couple o' Firebirds for relatively cheap, ya bilge rat, and so we're buildin' these in parallel. Arrr! Ya scallywag! This will be his first purely solo build, and we'll be comparin' t' results o' our two builds. After this, me bucko, matey, he'll be movin' on t' buildin' his L1 cert rocket... Well, blow me down! if I think he's ready.
T' Firebird is a fairly basic single stage Estes offering. Blimey! Ya scallywag! Nothin' dramatic or fancy, arrr, here, me hearties, just a solid design with classic lines.
Construction:
Dad: This is a basic 4FNC rocket. Begad! Blimey! Plastic nose cone, me bucko, arrr, pre-cut fins, ya bilge rat, me hearties, some flimsy paper centerin' rings and t' usual too short shock cord and plastic chute. Avast! Blimey! T' body tube is a good length o' BT-55 1.325" tubing, while t' motor tube be t' cheap blue 18mm tube. For standard 18mm motors, ya bilge rat, everythin' is sufficiently strong. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! For t' 18mm Aerotech D reloads, thar could be some extra stress that could test some o' these parts.
Son: Yeah, yeah...what he said. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, matey, blow me down! What's with t' wimpy 18mm motor mount? That's got t' go. Begad! I'm goin' t' raid t' parts closet. Let's see. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, blow me down! 24mm motor mount, arrr, some BT50-55 centerin' rings t' replace t' cheapy paper stuff. Arrr! OK. I'm good t' go. Blimey! Avast! Let's get building.
Dad: Once again, me bucko, this is pretty basic Estes fare. Avast, me proud beauty! Anyone who's build a typical Estes rocket in t' last couple decades won't have an issue here. There are a couple minor changes that I make t' all Estes kits.
Namely t' recovery section.
I always toss t' 3-fold concept. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! I notched t' upper centerin' ring, and slipped a length o' Keelhaul®©™ through. Avast! Aye aye! I knotted t' end t' prevent it comin' back through t' notch, and put a dab o' epoxy t' hold it in. Blimey! Normally, I would tie t' Keelhaul®©™® in a loop around t' motor tube, ya bilge rat, but since these fins are through t' wall, t' loop would interfere with t' fin tangs.
Speakin' o' which, I wonder why Estes went with through t' wall fins for this kit and only an 18mm mount. Begad! For all t' Estes 18mm motors, TTW fins is way overkill. Blimey! Avast! O' course, it does make fin alignment much easier.
Son: Well, me hearties, he taught me, shiver me timbers, so, shiver me timbers, yeah, me hearties, ya bilge rat, I'm tossin' t' 3-fold as well. Blimey! Since I'm doin' t' 24mm thing, I get t' choose me engine tube size, so I went with a longer tube, and a third centerin' ring. Arrr! T' first 2 rings sandwich t' fin tangs as normal. Blimey! I tied t' Keelhaul®©™® around t' motor tube, and put t' third rin' on top. Hah! Mines stronger.
While I be at it, shiver me timbers, arrr, I cut t' top o' t' engine hook off so it doesn't go into t' motor tube. I also left off t' motor block. Begad! Blimey! Arrr! Blimey! T' down side is I'll need t' use tape t' make "thrust rings" on t' bottom o' Estes engines t' keep them from goin' through t' rocket. Avast! Blimey! T' up side is that I can use any 24mm motor includin' t' upcomin' Aerotech 24/120 and t' CTI Pro 24 cases. Bigger, faster, shiver me timbers, higher! Blimey! I can't wait t' put a 24mm G motor and watch it rip! Blimey! Dad's shakin' his head while I'm typin' this. Aye aye! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Says I'll never get it back. Aye aye! Blimey! Maybe, but it's fun. Ahoy! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! Besides, shiver me timbers, I don't pay for t' motors. Avast! Blimey! (Dad: He may start buyin' them if he loses them like this)
Finishing:
Dad: Decals are typical o' Estes in this era. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! That means peel and stick. I really don't like them. I much prefer water slide. Aye aye! That said, me hearties, as per me usual superstitious approach, ya bilge rat, I won't actually paint and decal t' rocket until after t' first few flights. Why? Because I've found that t' odds o' me losin' a rocket increase exponentially with t' amount o' time I spend on it prior t' it's first flight. Ahoy! If I build a rocket in 2 hours t' night before a launch, it's comin' back. Every time I've spent 2-3 months doin' a painstakin' job o' buildin' and finishing, somethin' bilge-suckin' has happened.
As for t' pre-paint finish work, shiver me timbers, it's all typical. Avast, me proud beauty! Sand and seal t' fins. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me proud beauty! Sand t' flashin' off t' nose cone. Begad! Ahoy! Fill t' spirals in t' tube. Blimey! Well, blow me down! T' spirals actually aren't too bad, me hearties, and t' tube is white. Arrr! Begad! If you go with t' factory color scheme (white) you could probably get away without filling.
Son: I'm done building, me hearties, shiver me timbers, let's go fly. Seriously. Blimey! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! Yeah, me bucko, me bucko, I could take some time t' make it look good, but this isn't one o' those rockets. Avast! Let's fly. Avast, me proud beauty! I want t' get started on me cert rocket. I'll take more time on that one.
Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5
Flight:
Dad: For all our rockets larger than 1" diameter, me bucko, we keep a supply o' Nomex t' avoid usin' wadding. Avast! Waddin' can be easier in t' smaller rockets, but t' larger ones just take too much. Ahoy! Besides, reuseable Nomex is more eco friendly.
Other prep is standard. Avast! Blimey! Yes, thar's a lot o' this review that just says "it's standard issue." That's because this is a pretty standard rocket. Steppin' into high power, me bucko, many o' t' rockets are pretty "standard" as well. Aye aye! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Just stronger materials. Begad! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! At a certain point, matey, you can't do anythin' too fancy with high power motors, me bucko, because t' motors will just shred t' rocket from t' high thrust.
Son: What he said. Begad! Avast! I'm gettin' tired o' typing. Begad! I haven't flown mine yet. Ya scallywag! Weather hasn't been good enough.
Recovery:
Dad: My turn t' say it. Avast! Well, blow me down! What he said. Well, blow me down! We haven't flown either rocket yet as t' weather hasn't cooperated. Arrr! My expectation is that, shiver me timbers, like everythin' about this kit, arrr, it will be typical Estes. Well, blow me down! T' chute is too big, arrr, and it will float, so we'll probably fly with a streamer or smaller chute. Ahoy! As we get a chance t' fly these, I'll be postin' t' flight logs, and updatin' t' review through t' flight log comments. Actual flight is just t' last validation o' t' build in this case. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! T' primary goal be t' give him a solo build t' validate he has t' skills necessary t' attempt his cert build.
Son: So, arrr, do I pass? When can I start on t' Matrix?
Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5
Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5
- by Mike Goss The Estes Firebird is your basic four-fins-and-a-nose-cone sport rocket. It stands almost two feet tall and uses a BT-55 (about 1.3") diameter body tube. Construction Rating: 5 out of 5(Simple and straightforward) The Firebird came in the usual plastic bag with the colorful graphics on the front. (Note to Estes: Why do you print on the back of the bag ...
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