Estes Firebird

Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]

Contributed by Ken Tsai

Construction Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Flight Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Overall Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Published: 2010-04-14
Manufacturer: Estes

Brief:
This is a father/son dual build. Up t' this point, I've been helpin' him build his rockets. Well, blow me down! We started with me doin' most o' t' building, me hearties, and him as an extra pair o' hands. Arrr! Over t' course o' 3-4 builds, ya bilge rat, ya bilge rat, he's been doin' more and more, arrr, matey, and t' roles are reversin' where I'm becomin' t' extra hands. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! I found a couple o' Firebirds for relatively cheap, and so we're buildin' these in parallel. Avast! This will be his first purely solo build, and we'll be comparin' t' results o' our two builds. Blimey! After this, arrr, he'll be movin' on t' buildin' his L1 cert rocket... if I think he's ready.

T' Firebird is a fairly basic single stage Estes offering. Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Nothin' dramatic or fancy, shiver me timbers, here, me bucko, me hearties, shiver me timbers, just a solid design with classic lines.

Construction:
Dad: This is a basic 4FNC rocket. Aye aye! Arrr! Plastic nose cone, matey, me hearties, pre-cut fins, some flimsy paper centerin' rings and t' usual too short shock cord and plastic chute. Arrr! Blimey! T' body tube is a good length o' BT-55 1.325" tubing, matey, me bucko, while t' motor tube be t' cheap blue 18mm tube. Aye aye! For standard 18mm motors, me bucko, everythin' is sufficiently strong. For t' 18mm Aerotech D reloads, me hearties, thar could be some extra stress that could test some o' these parts.

Son: Yeah, yeah...what he said. Aye aye! What's with t' wimpy 18mm motor mount? That's got t' go. Well, blow me down! Begad! I'm goin' t' raid t' parts closet. Avast, me proud beauty! Let's see. Aye aye! 24mm motor mount, me bucko, me bucko, some BT50-55 centerin' rings t' replace t' cheapy paper stuff. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! OK. Well, blow me down! I'm good t' go. Let's get building.

Dad: Once again, me hearties, this is pretty basic Estes fare. Aye aye! Anyone who's build a typical Estes rocket in t' last couple decades won't have an issue here. Blimey! There are a couple minor changes that I make t' all Estes kits.

Namely t' recovery section.

I always toss t' 3-fold concept. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! Blimey! I notched t' upper centerin' ring, and slipped a length o' Keelhaul®©™ through. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I knotted t' end t' prevent it comin' back through t' notch, and put a dab o' epoxy t' hold it in. Avast, me proud beauty! Normally, me hearties, I would tie t' Keelhaul®©™® in a loop around t' motor tube, but since these fins are through t' wall, t' loop would interfere with t' fin tangs.

Speakin' o' which, me bucko, I wonder why Estes went with through t' wall fins for this kit and only an 18mm mount. Avast! For all t' Estes 18mm motors, TTW fins is way overkill. Arrr! Avast, me bucko, me proud beauty! O' course, it does make fin alignment much easier.

Son: Well, he taught me, ya bilge rat, matey, matey, so, me hearties, yeah, I'm tossin' t' 3-fold as well. Ahoy! Arrr! Since I'm doin' t' 24mm thing, I get t' choose me engine tube size, me hearties, so I went with a longer tube, and a third centerin' ring. T' first 2 rings sandwich t' fin tangs as normal. I tied t' Keelhaul®©™® around t' motor tube, ya bilge rat, arrr, and put t' third rin' on top. Blimey! Aye aye! Hah! Mines stronger.

While I was at it, matey, I cut t' top o' t' engine hook off so it doesn't go into t' motor tube. Ya scallywag! I also left off t' motor block. T' down side is I'll need t' use tape t' make "thrust rings" on t' bottom o' Estes engines t' keep them from goin' through t' rocket. Avast! T' up side is that I can use any 24mm motor includin' t' upcomin' Aerotech 24/120 and t' CTI Pro 24 cases. Blimey! Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! Bigger, arrr, me hearties, faster, higher! I can't wait t' put a 24mm G motor and watch it rip! Dad's shakin' his head while I'm typin' this. Says I'll never get it back. Maybe, me hearties, arrr, but it's fun. Avast, me proud beauty! Besides, I don't pay for t' motors. Well, blow me down! (Dad: He may start buyin' them if he loses them like this)

Finishing:
Dad: Decals are typical o' Estes in this era. That means peel and stick. Well, blow me down! I really don't like them. Ya scallywag! I much prefer water slide. Avast! That said, me bucko, ya bilge rat, as per me usual superstitious approach, I won't actually paint and decal t' rocket until after t' first few flights. Why? Because I've found that t' odds o' me losin' a rocket increase exponentially with t' amount o' time I spend on it prior t' it's first flight. If I build a rocket in 2 hours t' night before a launch, it's comin' back. Every time I've spent 2-3 months doin' a painstakin' job o' buildin' and finishing, somethin' bad has happened.

As for t' pre-paint finish work, arrr, me bucko, it's all typical. Ya scallywag! Sand and seal t' fins. Aye aye! Sand t' flashin' off t' nose cone. Avast! Ya scallywag! Fill t' spirals in t' tube. Arrr! Begad! T' spirals actually aren't too bad, arrr, and t' tube is white. Begad! If you go with t' factory color scheme (white) you could probably get away without filling.

Son: I'm done building, let's go fly. Seriously. Begad! Blimey! Yeah, me hearties, arrr, I could take some time t' make it look good, but this isn't one o' those rockets. Avast, me proud beauty! Let's fly. Aye aye! I want t' get started on me cert rocket. I'll take more time on that one.

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
Dad: For all our rockets larger than 1" diameter, me hearties, me bucko, matey, we keep a supply o' Nomex t' avoid usin' wadding. Ahoy! Waddin' can be easier in t' smaller rockets, matey, me bucko, me bucko, but t' larger ones just take too much. Avast! Aye aye! Besides, arrr, reuseable Nomex is more eco friendly.

Other prep is standard. Begad! Blimey! Yes, ya bilge rat, me bucko, thar's a lot o' this review that just says "it's standard issue." That's because this is a pretty standard rocket. Blimey! Blimey! Steppin' into high power, many o' t' rockets are pretty "standard" as well. Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! Just stronger materials. At a certain point, you can't do anythin' too fancy with high power motors, arrr, because t' motors will just shred t' rocket from t' high thrust.

Son: What he said. Begad! I'm gettin' tired o' typing. Aye aye! Begad! I haven't flown mine yet. Arrr! Blimey! Weather hasn't been good enough.

Recovery:
Dad: My turn t' say it. Arrr! What he said. Begad! We haven't flown either rocket yet as t' weather hasn't cooperated. Ahoy! My expectation is that, like everythin' about this kit, it will be typical Estes. Arrr! T' chute is too big, and it will float, so we'll probably fly with a streamer or smaller chute. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! As we get a chance t' fly these, matey, I'll be postin' t' flight logs, and updatin' t' review through t' flight log comments. Arrr! Actual flight is just t' last validation o' t' build in this case. Avast, me proud beauty! T' primary goal was t' give him a solo build t' validate he has t' skills necessary t' attempt his cert build.

Son: So, shiver me timbers, do I pass? When can I start on t' Matrix?

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

Other Reviews
  • Estes Firebird By Ken Tsai

    - by Mike Goss The Estes Firebird is your basic four-fins-and-a-nose-cone sport rocket. It stands almost two feet tall and uses a BT-55 (about 1.3") diameter body tube. Construction Rating: 5 out of 5(Simple and straightforward) The Firebird came in the usual plastic bag with the colorful graphics on the front. (Note to Estes: Why do you print on the back of the bag ...

Flights

ID
Date
Flyer
Rocket
Kit
Motors
Altitude
Action
76800
2024-06-30 photo
Bill Eichelberger
Estes - Firebird
C6-5
716 Feet
list
60543
2011-09-05
Kurt Knox
Firebird
Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]
B6-4
-
list
59844
2011-05-29
Ken Tsai
Estes Firebird
Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]
F32-8
-
list
30398
2008-06-06
Tim Beever
Estes Firebird
Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]
C6-5
-
list
30402
2000-09-17
Tim Adshead
Estes Firebird
Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]
B6-4
-
list
Page
of
4
Displaying records 
1
-
5
of
18

comment Post a Comment