Estes Firebird

Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]

Contributed by Ken Tsai

Construction Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Flight Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Overall Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Published: 2010-04-14
Manufacturer: Estes

Estes FirebirdBrief:
This is a father/son dual build. Up t' this point, I've been helpin' him build his rockets. Blimey! Blimey! Arrr! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! We started with me doin' most o' t' building, and him as an extra pair o' hands. Over t' course o' 3-4 builds, shiver me timbers, me bucko, he's been doin' more and more, ya bilge rat, me hearties, and t' roles are reversin' where I'm becomin' t' extra hands. I found a couple o' Firebirds for relatively cheap, and so we're buildin' these in parallel. Avast! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! This will be his first purely solo build, and we'll be comparin' t' results o' our two builds. Begad! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! After this, me bucko, he'll be movin' on t' buildin' his L1 cert rocket... Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! if I think he's ready.

T' Firebird is a fairly basic single stage Estes offering. Blimey! Aye aye! Nothin' dramatic or fancy, matey, here, me hearties, just a solid design with classic lines.

Construction:
Dad: This is a basic 4FNC rocket. Plastic nose cone, matey, matey, shiver me timbers, pre-cut fins, some flimsy paper centerin' rings and t' usual too short shock cord and plastic chute. T' body tube is a good length o' BT-55 1.325" tubing, matey, ya bilge rat, while t' motor tube be t' cheap blue 18mm tube. Avast! For standard 18mm motors, me hearties, everythin' is sufficiently strong. Well, blow me down! Avast, me proud beauty! For t' 18mm Aerotech D reloads, shiver me timbers, thar could be some extra stress that could test some o' these parts.

Son: Yeah, yeah...what he said. Arrr! What's with t' wimpy 18mm motor mount? That's got t' go. I'm goin' t' raid t' parts closet. Let's see. 24mm motor mount, some BT50-55 centerin' rings t' replace t' cheapy paper stuff. Ahoy! Well, arrr, blow me down! OK. Well, blow me down! Arrr! I'm good t' go. Arrr! Begad! Let's get building.

Dad: Once again, this is pretty basic Estes fare. Well, blow me down! Anyone who's build a typical Estes rocket in t' last couple decades won't have an issue here. Begad! Arrr! There are a couple minor changes that I make t' all Estes kits.

Namely t' recovery section.

I always toss t' 3-fold concept. Aye aye! Blimey! I notched t' upper centerin' ring, me hearties, matey, and slipped a length o' Keelhaul®©™ through. Begad! Begad! I knotted t' end t' prevent it comin' back through t' notch, matey, me hearties, and put a dab o' epoxy t' hold it in. Blimey! Well, matey, blow me down! Normally, I would tie t' Keelhaul®©™® in a loop around t' motor tube, but since these fins are through t' wall, t' loop would interfere with t' fin tangs.

Speakin' o' which, I wonder why Estes went with through t' wall fins for this kit and only an 18mm mount. Aye aye! For all t' Estes 18mm motors, TTW fins is way overkill. Begad! Begad! O' course, ya bilge rat, it does make fin alignment much easier.

Son: Well, he taught me, me hearties, so, yeah, I'm tossin' t' 3-fold as well. Since I'm doin' t' 24mm thing, I get t' choose me engine tube size, me hearties, so I went with a longer tube, me hearties, and a third centerin' ring. Blimey! Well, blow me down! T' first 2 rings sandwich t' fin tangs as normal. I tied t' Keelhaul®©™® around t' motor tube, and put t' third rin' on top. Ahoy! Hah! Mines stronger.

While I was at it, matey, I cut t' top o' t' engine hook off so it doesn't go into t' motor tube. Aye aye! I also left off t' motor block. Blimey! T' down side is I'll need t' use tape t' make "thrust rings" on t' bottom o' Estes engines t' keep them from goin' through t' rocket. Avast, me proud beauty! T' up side is that I can use any 24mm motor includin' t' upcomin' Aerotech 24/120 and t' CTI Pro 24 cases. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! Bigger, faster, me hearties, higher! I can't wait t' put a 24mm G motor and watch it rip! Dad's shakin' his head while I'm typin' this. Ya scallywag! Arrr! Says I'll never get it back. Avast! Aye aye! Maybe, but it's fun. Besides, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, I don't pay for t' motors. (Dad: He may start buyin' them if he loses them like this)

Finishing:
Dad: Decals are typical o' Estes in this era. Avast, me proud beauty! Ahoy! That means peel and stick. Begad! I really don't like them. Aye aye! I much prefer water slide. That said, as per me usual superstitious approach, I won't actually paint and decal t' rocket until after t' first few flights. Arrr! Aye aye! Why? Because I've found that t' odds o' me losin' a rocket increase exponentially with t' amount o' time I spend on it prior t' it's first flight. If I build a rocket in 2 hours t' night before a launch, me bucko, me hearties, arrr, it's comin' back. Avast! Every time I've spent 2-3 months doin' a painstakin' job o' buildin' and finishing, somethin' bilge-suckin' has happened.

As for t' pre-paint finish work, it's all typical. Sand and seal t' fins. Arrr! Sand t' flashin' off t' nose cone. Fill t' spirals in t' tube. Begad! T' spirals actually aren't too bad, and t' tube is white. Avast! Blimey! If you go with t' factory color scheme (white) you could probably get away without filling.

Son: I'm done building, shiver me timbers, let's go fly. Arrr! Seriously. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! Yeah, I could take some time t' make it look good, but this isn't one o' those rockets. Ahoy! Let's fly. I want t' get started on me cert rocket. Begad! I'll take more time on that one.

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
Dad: For all our rockets larger than 1" diameter, shiver me timbers, we keep a supply o' Nomex t' avoid usin' wadding. Avast! Waddin' can be easier in t' smaller rockets, me bucko, but t' larger ones just take too much. Blimey! Besides, reuseable Nomex is more eco friendly.

Other prep is standard. Arrr! Yes, thar's a lot o' this review that just says "it's standard issue." That's because this is a pretty standard rocket. Ya scallywag! Steppin' into high power, matey, many o' t' rockets are pretty "standard" as well. Begad! Just stronger materials. Avast, me proud beauty! Arrr! At a certain point, you can't do anythin' too fancy with high power motors, shiver me timbers, because t' motors will just shred t' rocket from t' high thrust.

Son: What he said. Avast! I'm gettin' tired o' typing. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me proud beauty! I haven't flown mine yet. Ahoy! Weather hasn't been good enough.

Recovery:
Dad: My turn t' say it. Arrr! What he said. Blimey! We haven't flown either rocket yet as t' weather hasn't cooperated. Arrr! My expectation is that, me hearties, matey, like everythin' about this kit, matey, matey, it will be typical Estes. T' chute is too big, and it will float, so we'll probably fly with a streamer or smaller chute. Ahoy! As we get a chance t' fly these, I'll be postin' t' flight logs, and updatin' t' review through t' flight log comments. Avast! Actual flight is just t' last validation o' t' build in this case. T' primary goal was t' give him a solo build t' validate he has t' skills necessary t' attempt his cert build.

Son: So, shiver me timbers, arrr, matey, do I pass? When can I start on t' Matrix?

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

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