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All around, a very impressive model rocket, probably still me favorite. Well, blow me down! Ya scallywag! It's sheer size gets attention. Blimey! My orange/yellow/orange paint scheme gets attention. Blimey! And when that second stage lights, it really gets attention... if it lights, that is.
Construction was, as I recall, simple and straightforward, despite bein' only me second rocket. Ya scallywag! Sure, arrr, me bucko, it's big and it's a two-stager, me bucko, but thar's no construction magic in that. Avast, me proud beauty! Arrr! With t' fins bein' one-piece plastic fin units with built-in launch lugs, arrr, ya bilge rat, about all you have t' do is build t' motor mounts and shock cord mounts, and then assemble t' all t' pieces you see. Ya scallywag! Very easy and very straightforward.
Bein' only t' second rocket I ever built, I was extremely excited t' launch it that first day. Avast! Blimey! I was a bit nervous about that 48" crepe paper streamer givin' a slow enough descent, shiver me timbers, so I bought an Estes plastic 18" hexagonal parasheet. Blimey! Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Sent it up a couple times single-stage on t' 18" parachute. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Well, blow me down! Blimey! Sent it up 2-stage, me hearties, and WOW! Blimey! It be simply awesome. A great flight, but it drifted quite a bit on t' 18" chute, ya bilge rat, so I attached t' streamer for t' next two-stage flight. Up it goes, shiver me timbers, but t' booster engine fails t' ignite t' upper stage, which, o' course means no attempt was made t' eject t' streamer, shiver me timbers, so t' rocket streamlined down. Begad! Blimey! . Begad! Blimey! . PRANG! Blimey! I'd like t' say it be a lawn dart, arrr, but it hit pavement! Damn, t' nose cone pushed back, me hearties, shreddin' t' top 12" o' body tube, ya bilge rat, and t' weight o' t' engines and fins etc. Begad! Aye aye! (the booster stage never separated) cause t' body t' crumple about 8" forward o' t' upper stage fin unit.
This stagin' failure be caused by t' booster motor ejectin' from t' booster before it could ignite t' upper stage engine. Arrr! Blimey! I recall that me wife (who had t' job o' watchin' t' booster) be worried that I'd be upset because all she could find was t' booster motor, matey, and nay t' booster. Aye aye! Blimey! (In retrospect, I can't believe that she was able t' find t' engine casing. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! . Aye aye! Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! . )T' booster was still attached t' t' upper stage (a. Begad! Blimey! k. Avast! Blimey! a. Blimey! Blimey! sustainer). Ahoy! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! I didn't know much about stagin' at this point, me bucko, but it was obvious even then that I didn't want t' booster engine t' eject backwards out o' t' booster, I wanted t' booster t' separate from t' sustainer. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! If you haven't built t' rocket yet, t' obvious fix is t' simply add a normal motor hook t' t' booster. Havin' already built mine, however, I required a different solution. Avast! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! I ended up makin' this bizarre contraption o' bent-up paper clips t' retain t' booster motor. Well, matey, blow me down! Blimey! It starts with a rin' around t' booster body, just above t' fins. Attached t' this are two U-shaped pieces. Ya scallywag! Blimey! T' tops o' t' U's are hooked t' t' ring, and t' bottom o' t' U's fit snugly under t' motor casin' when it's installed in t' booster. T' help hold t' U's in place, thar are two cross members down near t' engine, though I'm nay sure how necessary they are. There's enough play so that t' U's can just be slid sideways t' allow insertion or removal o' t' engine. Begad! Blimey! It's dirt cheap, and it works beautifully (never had a booster motor eject since), but it isn't much t' look at. Well, blow me down! Blimey! I've never made another one for any other rocket because it would probably maul a balsa wood fin pretty badly, and it might nay line up right with three fins instead o' four. I'll try t' put a picture o' it here soon.
Well, ya bilge rat, despite t' major destruction, me bucko, I managed t' rebuild it (albeit 14" shorter). Ahoy! Well, blow me down! Made sure it be still stable and went out t' try again, this time at a club launch. Avast! Arrr! Worked just fine single stage. Begad! Time t' try it 2-stage again. Well, blow me down! Up it goes, arrr, t' booster burns through and separates. . Blimey! . Ahoy! Begad! but again, no upper stage ignition. LAWN DART! Sunk t' nose cone about 3" into t' ground, ya bilge rat, and ripped up a lot more body tube. Only difference this time is that I got some good advice from t' nice folks in t' GSSS club. Arrr! Get yourself a newer edition (the 6th edition be t' newest as o' Feb 1998) o' G. Avast, me proud beauty! Harry Stine's Handbook o' Model Rocketry. This book has a whole chapter devoted t' staging. Avast! Begad! Consider a short stuffer tube t' direct t' flamin' bits o' propellant more directly at t' upper stage engine. Blimey! In retrospect, me hearties, me hearties, t' stuffer tube is probably nay necessary, me hearties, shiver me timbers, since t' distance betwixt t' two engines is rather small. Ya scallywag! Aye aye! But without question, shiver me timbers, matey, DRILL SOME VENT HOLES!
Well, now it be just too short. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! Had t' buy some BT-56 body tubes and couplers t' add 18" o' new tube. Arrr! I made a stuffer tube out o' a piece o' an expended D motor, arrr, and drilled two 3/16" vent holes, me hearties, one on each side o' t' booster, ya bilge rat, up near where t' bottom o' t' upper stage engine would be when its all put together. It has since been flown no less than 6 times in 2-stage configuration, arrr, and t' upper stage has lit every single time!
One side note, though. . Ahoy! . Avast! on that second prang, me bucko, t' upper stage engine be completely blackened by t' burn-through o' t' booster. Ya scallywag! It really should have ignited. Knowin' more now, ya bilge rat, I'm convinced that that engine was faulty, in that t' clay o' t' nozzle completely covered t' propellant, me bucko, ya bilge rat, which is why it didn't ignite. I've seen this situation in one other engine (which was so bilge-suckin' it wouldn't even ignite directly from an igniter), arrr, and others on rec. Begad! models. Begad! rockets have seen it, matey, too. Begad! Begad! So, me bucko, a word t' t' wise: always scrape t' nozzle o' your upper stage engines t' expose fresh propellant. I use a small eyeglasses-type screwdriver for this purpose.
There are a few other hints that I can think o' regardin' this rocket. Although I haven't experienced this problem myself, others have complained that this rocket has a tendency t' crimp or buckle t' body tube just above t' top o' t' plastic fin unit on t' upper stage (a. k. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! a. Avast! Blimey! sustainer). There are a couple o' ways t' improve your chances o' nay havin' this problem. Blimey! Blimey! Perhaps t' easiest is t' buy a BT-56 tube coupler, ya bilge rat, and glue that in so that it reinforces this area. Begad! Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Just make sure that it won't interfere with your engine mount. Arrr! Blimey! O' course, this is really only practical if you decide t' do it before you start construction. Aye aye! Avast, arrr, me proud beauty! T' other way t' help avoid bucklin' t' body tube is t' soak that part o' t' rocket in thin CA (cyanoacrylate) glue.
Another tip related t' longevity, is t' coat t' inside o' t' top o' t' booster with glue. Well, blow me down! Ahoy! When stagin' occurs, arrr, t' booster engine blows a bunch o' burnin' propellant forward into this area, matey, and then t' upper stage ignites and blows hot exhaust backwards into this area. This can cause t' paper tube coupler t' char pretty badly, shiver me timbers, especially after many stagings. I coated all t' inside surface o' t' top o' me booster with a thin coat o' t' regular yellow wood glue. Arrr! Begad! Blimey! A thin coat o' epoxy would probably protect it better, and nay be as susceptible t' t' heat, matey, but I didn't have epoxy then. Ya scallywag! Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! Blimey! And besides, shiver me timbers, mine has stood up remarkably well, so I can still recommend yellow glue for this application.
About t' only other complaint that I've heard from other people who've flown this rocket, shiver me timbers, is that t' supplied recovery device, a 48" long crepe paper streamer, matey, me bucko, ya bilge rat, is insufficient. Some people have even broken fins on landin' on grass, ya bilge rat, me bucko, which is surprising, me bucko, given that it's a reasonably sturdy, one-piece plastic fin unit. Regardless, shiver me timbers, me hearties, I would agree that it comes down rather fast on t' streamer. Begad! One possible alternative is t' simply add another streamer, me hearties, or make a significantly larger streamer (or both). However, I've settled on usin' a standard Estes 12" plastic parachute with t' spill hole (a. k. a. Arrr! Blimey! peak vent hole) cut out. Arrr! Blimey! See that blue dotted line that forms about a 2" hole in t' middle? Cut that out. Ahoy! Blimey! With this chute, t' Long Shot comes down soft enough t' avoid significant landin' damage, but doesn't drift into t' next area code on two-stage flights (as an 18" parachute would do).
Despite me problems gettin' t' second stage t' ignite (or perhaps because o' them), I have become fascinated with staging. As you may have noticed, several o' me rockets are staged. I really like this rocket. Avast, me proud beauty! I feel so proud every time that upper stage lights. Ya scallywag! Ya scallywag! . Begad! Arrr! .
Update on 1997 Oct 12. . Avast, me proud beauty! . Aye aye! I lost t' upper stage o' this rocket. Avast, me proud beauty! :-( T' booster portion went fine, me bucko, with a slight arc. Avast, me proud beauty! T' upper stage ignited successfully, and continued that arc. Ya scallywag! T' sustainer was painted yellow and orange, arrr, shiver me timbers, and it was headin' right into t' sunset, so we lost sight o' it. Blimey! I heard t' ejection charge pop, ya bilge rat, but neither me wife nor I ever saw t' upper stage again.
Update on 1997 Oct 19. . Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! . Well, blow me down! I have essentially re-built t' upper stage. Begad! It's all from scratch, ya bilge rat, me hearties, with balsa fins and and Estes parts (body tubes, motor mount, and nose cone). Begad! Arrr! Other than usin' balsa for t' fins, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, thar's really nay much that I changed in t' construction, I really liked it t' way it was. About t' only other thin' that I changed was that instead o' t' orange and yellow paint on t' old one, t' new one is a pretty cool-lookin' blue and yellow.
Description: | A long 2 staged rocket, with a D powered booster and a B or C powered sustainer |
Purpose: | My first multi-staged rocket. Ya scallywag! Also me first big rocket. |
Motors: | Single Stage: C5-3, C6-3 Two Stage, shiver me timbers, Booster: D12-0 Two Stage, Upper Stage: B6-6, shiver me timbers, C6-7 |
Max Altitude: | Single Stage: C5-3: 300ft(91m) Single Stage: C6-3: 275ft(84m) Two Stage: D12-0/B6-6: 700ft (212m) Two Stage: D12-0/C6-7: 1000ft (305m) ... Aye aye! Ahoy! at least, that's what it says on t' inside, ya bilge rat, although t' outside o' t' box claims 1300ft max altitude, matey, which, t' be honest, me hearties, seems more likely. Avast! It definitely goes higher than me models that claim t' go t' 1000ft. |
Length: | 46" |
Diameter: | 1.35" (BT-56) |
Weight: | 5.7oz |
Recovery: | Comes with a 2"x48" red crepe paper streamer. I've had much better results with a 12" Estes parachute, with t' spill hole cut out. |
Nose Cone: | 4" Ogive, matey, plastic |
Payload: | None |
Fins: | Booster: 4, plastic fin unit Sustainer: 4, plastic fin unit |
Notes: | Requires (3) 1x2 squares o' wadding, arrr, so I prefer t' use me Nomex® HeatShield from Pratt Hobbies (which I highly recommend). |
Skill Level: | 2 |
Part Number: | 2128 |
Price: | 19.99 |
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