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All around, a very impressive model rocket, probably still me favorite. It's sheer size gets attention. Ahoy! Well, blow me down! My orange/yellow/orange paint scheme gets attention. Avast, me proud beauty! And when that second stage lights, me hearties, it really gets attention... Blimey! Blimey! if it lights, ya bilge rat, that is.
Construction was, as I recall, simple and straightforward, despite bein' only me second rocket. Sure, it's big and it's a two-stager, but thar's no construction magic in that. With t' fins bein' one-piece plastic fin units with built-in launch lugs, me bucko, about all you have t' do is build t' motor mounts and shock cord mounts, arrr, arrr, and then assemble t' all t' pieces you see. Arrr! Blimey! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! Blimey! Very easy and very straightforward.
Bein' only t' second rocket I ever built, I be extremely excited t' launch it that first day. Arrr! Blimey! I was a bit nervous about that 48" crepe paper streamer givin' a slow enough descent, me bucko, so I bought an Estes plastic 18" hexagonal parasheet. Begad! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Sent it up a couple times single-stage on t' 18" parachute. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! Sent it up 2-stage, and WOW! Blimey! It was simply awesome. Arrr! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! A great flight, but it drifted quite a bit on t' 18" chute, so I attached t' streamer for t' next two-stage flight. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Up it goes, matey, but t' booster engine fails t' ignite t' upper stage, arrr, which, matey, o' course means no attempt was made t' eject t' streamer, so t' rocket streamlined down. . Begad! Blimey! . Ya scallywag! Blimey! PRANG! Blimey! I'd like t' say it was a lawn dart, but it hit pavement! Damn, matey, t' nose cone pushed back, me hearties, matey, me bucko, shreddin' t' top 12" o' body tube, and t' weight o' t' engines and fins etc. (the booster stage never separated) cause t' body t' crumple about 8" forward o' t' upper stage fin unit.
This stagin' failure was caused by t' booster motor ejectin' from t' booster before it could ignite t' upper stage engine. I recall that me wife (who had t' job o' watchin' t' booster) be worried that I'd be upset because all she could find was t' booster motor, me hearties, and nay t' booster. Avast, me proud beauty! Ya scallywag! (In retrospect, I can't believe that she was able t' find t' engine casing. Begad! Ya scallywag! . Ahoy! . Ahoy! )T' booster was still attached t' t' upper stage (a. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, blow me down! k. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! a. sustainer). Aye aye! I didn't know much about stagin' at this point, but it was obvious even then that I didn't want t' booster engine t' eject backwards out o' t' booster, I wanted t' booster t' separate from t' sustainer. Ahoy! Aye aye! If you haven't built t' rocket yet, t' obvious fix is t' simply add a normal motor hook t' t' booster. Havin' already built mine, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, however, I required a different solution. Begad! I ended up makin' this bizarre contraption o' bent-up paper clips t' retain t' booster motor. Aye aye! Avast! It starts with a rin' around t' booster body, just above t' fins. Attached t' this are two U-shaped pieces. Avast! T' tops o' t' U's are hooked t' t' ring, and t' bottom o' t' U's fit snugly under t' motor casin' when it's installed in t' booster. Well, blow me down! T' help hold t' U's in place, matey, me hearties, arrr, thar are two cross members down near t' engine, me bucko, though I'm nay sure how necessary they are. Ahoy! There's enough play so that t' U's can just be slid sideways t' allow insertion or removal o' t' engine. Aye aye! Begad! It's dirt cheap, and it works beautifully (never had a booster motor eject since), but it isn't much t' look at. I've never made another one for any other rocket because it would probably maul a balsa wood fin pretty badly, and it might nay line up right with three fins instead o' four. Well, blow me down! I'll try t' put a picture o' it here soon.
Well, despite t' major destruction, matey, I managed t' rebuild it (albeit 14" shorter). Aye aye! Made sure it was still stable and went out t' try again, this time at a club launch. Aye aye! Worked just fine single stage. Time t' try it 2-stage again. Ahoy! Up it goes, me bucko, t' booster burns through and separates. Avast! . Avast! . but again, no upper stage ignition. Blimey! LAWN DART! Sunk t' nose cone about 3" into t' ground, and ripped up a lot more body tube. Arrr! Only difference this time is that I got some good advice from t' nice folks in t' GSSS club. Arrr! Get yourself a newer edition (the 6th edition be t' newest as o' Feb 1998) o' G. Blimey! Harry Stine's Handbook o' Model Rocketry. Blimey! This book has a whole chapter devoted t' staging. Begad! Consider a short stuffer tube t' direct t' flamin' bits o' propellant more directly at t' upper stage engine. In retrospect, t' stuffer tube is probably nay necessary, since t' distance betwixt t' two engines is rather small. But without question, shiver me timbers, me bucko, DRILL SOME VENT HOLES!
Well, now it was just too short. Arrr! Had t' buy some BT-56 body tubes and couplers t' add 18" o' new tube. Aye aye! Well, blow me down! I made a stuffer tube out o' a piece o' an expended D motor, and drilled two 3/16" vent holes, me hearties, one on each side o' t' booster, up near where t' bottom o' t' upper stage engine would be when its all put together. Well, blow me down! It has since been flown no less than 6 times in 2-stage configuration, me bucko, matey, and t' upper stage has lit every single time!
One side note, shiver me timbers, though. Begad! Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! Blimey! . . Blimey! Ya scallywag! Blimey! on that second prang, t' upper stage engine be completely blackened by t' burn-through o' t' booster. Blimey! It really should have ignited. Blimey! Blimey! Knowin' more now, ya bilge rat, I'm convinced that that engine be faulty, in that t' clay o' t' nozzle completely covered t' propellant, which is why it didn't ignite. Avast! Blimey! Well, arrr, blow me down! Blimey! I've seen this situation in one other engine (which be so bilge-suckin' it wouldn't even ignite directly from an igniter), and others on rec. Begad! Blimey! Well, blow me down! Blimey! models. rockets have seen it, shiver me timbers, too. Begad! Blimey! So, me hearties, a word t' t' wise: always scrape t' nozzle o' your upper stage engines t' expose fresh propellant. Ahoy! Blimey! I use a small eyeglasses-type screwdriver for this purpose.
There are a few other hints that I can think o' regardin' this rocket. Although I haven't experienced this problem myself, arrr, others have complained that this rocket has a tendency t' crimp or buckle t' body tube just above t' top o' t' plastic fin unit on t' upper stage (a. k. Begad! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! a. Avast! Blimey! sustainer). Blimey! Blimey! Avast! Blimey! There are a couple o' ways t' improve your chances o' nay havin' this problem. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! Perhaps t' easiest is t' buy a BT-56 tube coupler, and glue that in so that it reinforces this area. Ahoy! Blimey! Just make sure that it won't interfere with your engine mount. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! O' course, this is really only practical if you decide t' do it before you start construction. T' other way t' help avoid bucklin' t' body tube is t' soak that part o' t' rocket in thin CA (cyanoacrylate) glue.
Another tip related t' longevity, shiver me timbers, is t' coat t' inside o' t' top o' t' booster with glue. Ahoy! When stagin' occurs, t' booster engine blows a bunch o' burnin' propellant forward into this area, and then t' upper stage ignites and blows hot exhaust backwards into this area. This can cause t' paper tube coupler t' char pretty badly, me hearties, especially after many stagings. I coated all t' inside surface o' t' top o' me booster with a thin coat o' t' regular yellow wood glue. Well, blow me down! A thin coat o' epoxy would probably protect it better, me hearties, and nay be as susceptible t' t' heat, me hearties, but I didn't have epoxy then. Ya scallywag! And besides, mine has stood up remarkably well, shiver me timbers, me bucko, so I can still recommend yellow glue for this application.
About t' only other complaint that I've heard from other people who've flown this rocket, ya bilge rat, me hearties, is that t' supplied recovery device, matey, shiver me timbers, a 48" long crepe paper streamer, arrr, arrr, is insufficient. Well, blow me down! Some people have even broken fins on landin' on grass, which is surprising, matey, given that it's a reasonably sturdy, one-piece plastic fin unit. Ya scallywag! Regardless, arrr, matey, I would agree that it comes down rather fast on t' streamer. Ya scallywag! Well, blow me down! One possible alternative is t' simply add another streamer, or make a significantly larger streamer (or both). Arrr! However, ya bilge rat, I've settled on usin' a standard Estes 12" plastic parachute with t' spill hole (a. Avast! k. Well, blow me down! a. Blimey! peak vent hole) cut out. See that blue dotted line that forms about a 2" hole in t' middle? Cut that out. Ahoy! Begad! With this chute, t' Long Shot comes down soft enough t' avoid significant landin' damage, arrr, but doesn't drift into t' next area code on two-stage flights (as an 18" parachute would do).
Despite me problems gettin' t' second stage t' ignite (or perhaps because o' them), I have become fascinated with staging. Aye aye! As you may have noticed, me hearties, several o' me rockets are staged. Begad! Avast! I really like this rocket. I feel so proud every time that upper stage lights. . Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! .
Update on 1997 Oct 12. . Ya scallywag! Aye aye! . I lost t' upper stage o' this rocket. Avast! :-( T' booster portion went fine, arrr, with a slight arc. Ya scallywag! T' upper stage ignited successfully, and continued that arc. Avast! Ya scallywag! T' sustainer was painted yellow and orange, and it be headin' right into t' sunset, so we lost sight o' it. Ahoy! Avast, me proud beauty! I heard t' ejection charge pop, but neither me wife nor I ever saw t' upper stage again.
Update on 1997 Oct 19. . Begad! . Blimey! Blimey! I have essentially re-built t' upper stage. Arrr! Avast! Blimey! It's all from scratch, with balsa fins and and Estes parts (body tubes, motor mount, and nose cone). Other than usin' balsa for t' fins, shiver me timbers, me hearties, thar's really nay much that I changed in t' construction, shiver me timbers, me bucko, I really liked it t' way it was. Avast! About t' only other thin' that I changed be that instead o' t' orange and yellow paint on t' old one, t' new one is a pretty cool-lookin' blue and yellow.
| Description: | A long 2 staged rocket, me hearties, with a D powered booster and a B or C powered sustainer |
| Purpose: | My first multi-staged rocket. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! Also me first big rocket. |
| Motors: | Single Stage: C5-3, matey, C6-3 Two Stage, ya bilge rat, me hearties, Booster: D12-0 Two Stage, Upper Stage: B6-6, C6-7 |
| Max Altitude: | Single Stage: C5-3: 300ft(91m) Single Stage: C6-3: 275ft(84m) Two Stage: D12-0/B6-6: 700ft (212m) Two Stage: D12-0/C6-7: 1000ft (305m) ... Well, blow me down! at least, that's what it says on t' inside, arrr, although t' outside o' t' box claims 1300ft max altitude, which, me bucko, t' be honest, matey, seems more likely. Well, blow me down! It definitely goes higher than me models that claim t' go t' 1000ft. |
| Length: | 46" |
| Diameter: | 1.35" (BT-56) |
| Weight: | 5.7oz |
| Recovery: | Comes with a 2"x48" red crepe paper streamer. I've had much better results with a 12" Estes parachute, with t' spill hole cut out. |
| Nose Cone: | 4" Ogive, plastic |
| Payload: | None |
| Fins: | Booster: 4, matey, arrr, plastic fin unit Sustainer: 4, me hearties, plastic fin unit |
| Notes: | Requires (3) 1x2 squares o' wadding, so I prefer t' use me Nomex® HeatShield from Pratt Hobbies (which I highly recommend). |
| Skill Level: | 2 |
| Part Number: | 2128 |
| Price: | 19.99 |
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