FlisKits Deuce's Wild

FlisKits - Deuce's Wild {Kit} (CL002)

Contributed by Jason Toft

Diameter: 1.64 inches
Length: 21.20 inches
Manufacturer: FlisKits
Skill Level: 3
Style: Cluster, Sport
Rating
(by Jason Toft - 04/15/03)

Rocket PicBrief:
An awesome little rocket with dual canted motor mounts. Arrr! Just BEGGING t' be upscaled

Construction:
When I received me Deuce, thar was one 17 inch BT-60 tube, a balsa ogive nose, fin stock, motor mount materials, matey, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, and other miscellaneous materials required for construction. (launch lugs, shiver me timbers, chute, matey, arrr, etc.)

I opened t' package and inspected t' quality o' t' materials. Avast, me proud beauty! Wow, arrr, me hearties, cool! A balsa nose cone! As a rocketeer beginnin' in t' "age o' plastic" that was an unexpected surprise! Without repeatin' what Doug said in t' above review, t' rocket went together with very few hitches. Well, blow me down!

I did have a little trouble with t' motor mount, so I fired off an e-mail to Jim Flis, owner o' Fliskits. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! Blimey! He informed me that they had just received a set o' laser cut centerin' rings. Begad! Well, blow me down! Blimey! Neat! Blimey! He sent t' rings t' every rocketeer that had ordered a DW. They made t' construction so much easier. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast! Blimey!

T' next step in construction was t' put t' patterns on t' tube. This also involved cuttin' out t' pattern for t' motor tubes so they could stick out o' t' tube. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! I marked t' fins, and t' holes for t' motor tubes. Begad! I then roughly cut t' holes. After t' motor mount be dry, I inserted it and applied a generous amount o' wood glue. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! I also applied a small mount o' glue around the tubes.

Motor MountBack

After these few steps, matey, I used some o' Apogee Components FIXIT epoxy clay around t' motor tubes. Avast! T' clay is so easy t' work with, just mix until it is a single solid color, and apply! I rolled it into two snakes and rubbed it in! Dippin' me finger into water made it easy t' achieve a smooth finish. Ya scallywag! See picture (above, right).

T' large fin pattern be now traced onto t' one-eighth inch stock and cut out. Fliskits says that this is supposed t' make you think about your rocket, rather than throw it together. Avast, me proud beauty! I did nay round t' edges, I didn't feel that this was necessary. Blimey! T' fins attached quickly, and I applied Fill n Finish fillets, and a small fin farin' with t' FnF. Begad! I sealed t' fins with one coat of thinned wood glue and two coats o' sandin' sealer. Blimey! Finally, I sealed the nose cone with FIVE coats o' sealer.

Finishing:
To commemorate t' Tampa Bay Buccaneers win o' t' Super Bowl, I attempted to paint t' rocket in their colors. Arrr! What I ended up with has more o' one or the other color. Begad! For example, ya bilge rat, me bucko, I have too much black, ya bilge rat, and t' red is kind o' off. But t' rocket look very, very good!!! See t' before and after painting pictures.

Finished

Construction Rating: 5 out o' 5

MotorsFlight:
For t' first flight, I used a non-recommended set o' two B4-4's. Only one motor lit, me bucko, causin' t' rocket t' lawndart about two feet from a tree! Whew! The followin' flight, matey, I used two B6-4's. Both motors lit, shiver me timbers, producin' t' AWESOME smoke trails that t' rocket is designed t' produce!!! I have many great pictures, shiver me timbers, as you can see. Ya scallywag! Avast! In all, me bucko, I have flown t' rocket five times, matey, arrr, ya bilge rat, with only one motor ignitin' two times. Aye aye! I recommend usin' t' B6-4, me hearties, because t' high thrust, shiver me timbers, short burn will get t' rocket t' enough altitude for t' chute to deploy. Avast, me proud beauty! T' C6-5 shouldn't put it too far out o' sight, arrr, but use a large field when doin' this. I used me new digital camera t' take all o' these pictures. Blimey! Arrr!

Take-Off 1Lift-Off 2

Recovery:
I used me 16 inch nylon cute in place o' t' plastic chute supplied with the kit, me hearties, because I have made friends with nylon!

Flight Rating: 5 out o' 5

Summary:
Mr. Avast! Begad! Jim Flis and his partner, Brian McCarthy, shiver me timbers, me hearties, shiver me timbers, have produced an excellent product that will be adored by rocketeers forever. T' dual smoke trails are awesome, and I am currently workin' on a 24mm upscale, will provide pics of that and a review soon.

THANKS FLISKITS!!!

Overall Rating: 5 out o' 5

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  • FlisKits Deuce's Wild By Douglas Gardei

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Comments:

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J.F. (October 2, 2002)
As the manufacturer of the Deuce's Wild, I wanted to make a couple of comments about the kit and the review: First, and quite important, the Deuce's Wild! (and all FlisKits rocket kits) come with VERNON Estes quality parts. A significant difference we beleive, in the eyes of the long-time rocketeers. As for the motor mount, we have has several people construct the motor mount as described in the instructions with no problems, but we are still looking into possible changes per Doug's input. Cutting fins out by hand is a *feature* of FlisKits products. Gives a modeler a reason to learn how to use the tools of the trade, in our opinion. FlisKits is in the process of lengthening the shock cord on most of our kits, but the cord currently packaged with the Deuce's Wild is 18". If the one received with this kit was "less than a foot", then a problem got past our QC and will be corrected. We have also found tape disks with a much higher tack adhesive, so FlisKits parachutes will exhibit much higher quality and long life for your model. The paint job, pictures and vid's are all WONDERFUL. You did a FINE job constructing this model! KUDO's!
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L.V. (November 23, 2002)
I also have a Deuce's Wild kit #7. I too had a little problem with the motor mounting, but the rest of the kit went together great. I like the idea of cutting out the fins. I remember that from my early days of building rockets. I hope they don't change that. Mine has flown twice so far both times on a pair of B6-4s.Both flights straight and perfect. I also left the chute large. The dual smoke trails are really neat. This rocket is well worth the cost and is a lot of fun. Thanks Fliskits!!!
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G.D. (December 1, 2002)
My Fliskits Deuces' Wild is production #33. Just building it slow. Nice kit!
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J.F. (January 3, 2003)
UPDATE from FLisKits: For the record, after talking with other folks and reviewing the kit, parts and instructions, FlisKits decided that Doug was right on the money in regard to the motor mount assembly on the Deuce's Wild. Therefore, we have created a set of laser-cut rings and changed the assembly instructions to match what Doug came up with. These new rings, with modified instructions are already shipping with new orders. Additionally, FlisKits has contacted all customers who have purchased but not yet built their Deuce's Wild! kit and have shipped them a set of rings and instructions for use. We (FlisKits) have a very good product set, but not a "perfect" product set. Your help, feedback and suggestions go a long way toward helping us reach perfection. You talk, we listen and everybody benefits! Thank you!
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C.T. (January 24, 2003)
I just finished building my Deuces Wild and wanted to add that this kit is a MUST HAVE for anyone's fleet. I was one of the first if not the first to use the new "Laser Cut" black fiber Centering Rings during construction and they were a dream to work with; it takes all the worry of cutting your own out of the picture...Well done FlisKits! I alos agree with the ease of construction that Doug has posted and the results are astounding. Mine will fly this weekend and I will post a report.
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J.W.M. (May 6, 2003)
I got my Deuce in the mail on Sat and built it that nite! It has the new laser cut rings and went together like a dream! Painted on Sunday and I can't wait to fly it (raining and 40 M.P.H. winds today). I gotta a bulk pack-o-motors and a fresh charge on the launch batteries just waiting for the sun!!
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D.A.S. (August 19, 2003)
After losing my beloved and much-launched Flea at a CMASS launch, I had the good fortune to purchase my second FlisKit, the Deuce's Wild, from Jim himself! This is definitely a "builder's" kit. The jewel-like quality of the components, and excellent instructions, make it a real kick to build. You can really sink your teeth into this one. It's no wonder this kit keeps getting rave reviews- they are well-deserved. It looks bad to the bone with those huge fins and dual motor mounts. I can't wait to get my Deuce to a big field and fly it. Keep up the good work, Jim and Brian!
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S.E.O. (August 30, 2004)
Sent My DW up on it's maiden flight. The canted motors are very cool. This kit is definitely worth every penny!

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