Qmodeling VEGA

Qmodeling - VEGA

Contributed by Stu Young

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QModeling - Starship Vega

Brief:
Upscale o' an Estes vintage exotic kit.

Construction:
2 17" cardboard body tubes, ya bilge rat, 3 cardboard tubes for landin' leg pods, shiver me timbers, arrr, shiver me timbers, steel springs for t' shock-absorbing landin' legs, high-quality, laser-cut balsa fins and motor mount "exoskeleton," reflective, arrr, heat-resistant coatin' inside 24 mm motor mount, steel engine retainin' hook (long enough for a BP E-motor), shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, resin main nose cone and landin' leg pod nose cones, laser-cut balsa centerin' rings and nose cone screw-eye attachment, shiver me timbers, Keelhaul®©™® shock cord, nylon parachute, snap swivel, me hearties, chute protector, water-slide decals, reflective peel-and-stick decal. Avast, me proud beauty!

When I pulled t' instructions out o' t' bag, shiver me timbers, I was intimidated! They consisted o' a many-paged, arrr, shiver me timbers, stapled booklet o' legal-sized pages. Ahoy! However, t' instructions were very clear. Begad! Avast, arrr, me proud beauty! T' assembly instructions were broken-down into very small steps, each well-illustrated, ya bilge rat, which explains why t' instructions were so long. Frankly, arrr, I greatly prefer t' be walked-through a construction process with such detail, me bucko, me bucko, especially when it comes t' a model as complicated as this one. T' order o' t' steps was logical. Arrr! I wouldn't change a thin' about them.

Much has been said in other reviews about t' unique motor mount/fin interface. Avast! In me case, t' pieces for the MMT-exoskeleton fit together like a precision jigsaw puzzle. T' illustrations clearly showed t' up-down orientation o' t' pieces, but they only fit together in one way anyway, ya bilge rat, me bucko, which made it "idiot-proof." After t' fins were attached t' t' MMT, and t' assembly be slid into t' body tube, I noticed that thar was a little bit o' play t' the fins; i.e., shiver me timbers, if I rotated t' MMT, t' fins would skew a bit from perfect 120 degree angles. In all honesty, ya bilge rat, me bucko, if that play had nay existed, matey, it probably would have been impossible t' insert t' MMT. Arrr! After applyin' glue, and slidin' the assembly in, I rotated t' MMT until t' fins appeared t' be perpendicular t' t' body tube, at least to "eyeball" standards. It be nice t' nay have t' brace t' main fins while t' glue was drying. Blimey! BTW, t' shock cord attaches t' t' MMT exoskeleton.

Speakin' o' glue, ya bilge rat, I used white wood glue throughout t' build, arrr, ya bilge rat, except for CA gel t' glue t' screw-eye bulkhead to t' nose cone, as well as t' glue t' landin' leg pod nose cones t' t' cardboard sprin' housings. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I used the double-glue method t' attach t' auxiliary fins, me hearties, linin' them up by eyesight with t' main fins, and usin' long strips o' green maskin' tape t' hold them in place while t' glue set. Begad! Blimey! Thin fillets o' white glue were applied t' t' fins and t' t' launch lugs. Begad! Well, me hearties, blow me down!

Finishing:
I taped off t' shoulder o' t' nose cone, and t' landin' legs (to prevent paint from gettin' into the "springy" works o' t' landin' leg pods). Begad! I hit t' whole model with an initial coat o' Kilz primer. After sandin' with 380 grit, thar was just a little bit o' balsa grain visible, ya bilge rat, so I applied a second coat. Well, blow me down! Unfortunately, t' Kilz did somethin' at that point which it has never done before, in that it left tiny bubbles on one side o' one main fin, me hearties, as well as on all o' t' auxiliary fins. Begad! T' bubbles smartly popped, o' course, leavin' pits in t' finish. Sandin' did nay remove t' pits (well, me hearties, me bucko, me hearties, I could have sanded down t' bare wood, but considerin' t' amount of "lumber" on this model, that smartly exhausted me!). Avast! Avast! I tried another coat o' Kilz, me hearties, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, but t' problem grew worse. Begad! I mitigated t' problem by applyin' a couple o' coats o' white glue, usin' cardstock t' scrape t' glue into a smooth film, shiver me timbers, then lightly sanded. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! I applied two more coats o' Krylon glossy white, me bucko, sandin' betwixt coats. Begad! T' pits in t' fins were much better, although still visible up close. I gambled that t' application o' t' decals would help to hide them.

T' instructions called for sprayin' t' water-slide decals with clearcoat before applyin' them t' t' model. Arrr! I did so, usin' Krylon glossy clearcoat. Aye aye! Blimey! After drying, I applied t' decals. Aye aye! Begad! Blimey! Even after clearcoatin' them, a couple of t' smaller decals still tore, although t' resultin' cracks in t' decals were hardly visible after shiftin' them back into t' correct positions. T' mirrored decal, matey, ya bilge rat, which replaces t' red body decal from t' original kit, was a nice touch. Arrr! Blimey! Blimey! As has been noted in other reviews, shiver me timbers, care must be taken with this decal, as handlin' it too much tends t' cause t' black printed "ribs" on t' decal t' crumble. Well, blow me down! This happened t' me, arrr, shiver me timbers, although, me bucko, me hearties, again, it was barely visible, arrr, only upon close-up scrutiny.

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
I inserted a D12-3 and a E9-4 into t' Vega, and verified that t' CG be still in t' proper place (as identified in t' instructions).

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T' maiden flights o' t' Vega were on Feb. Begad! Arrr! 14, ya bilge rat, me hearties, 2009. At that point, me bucko, t' Vega was still in primer. Well, blow me down! I launched it twice that day, on a D12-3 and a E9-4. Begad! T' D12 boosted t' Vega straighter, due t' its more abrupt thrust profile. Arrr! Well, blow me down! The thrust o' t' E9 tails off towards t' end o' t' burn, which, matey, in any kind o' wind, me bucko, causes t' Vega t' "flop over" onto its side and t' fly horizontally for t' last few seconds o' flight, me hearties, which is always unnerving. Well, blow me down! During t' first flight, me bucko, t' shock cord and parachute hung up on a landin' leg pod, arrr, so t' parachute didn't fully deploy. Fortunately, me hearties, t' Vega landed in a loose tangle o' dried vegetation, cushionin' t' blow. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! She be undamaged. Durin' the second flight, me hearties, t' shock cord again hung up on a leg, me hearties, but t' parachute fully deployed. Arrr! She landed horzontally, matey, which kind o' defeated t' purpose o' t' shock-absorbin' landin' legs. Ahoy! Again, ya bilge rat, no damage, other than a landin' leg pod poppin' off o' a fin at t' glue line. T' sprin' was recovered, enablin' a complete repair.

T' Vega's third flight occurred on Mar. Arrr! 21, shiver me timbers, 2009. By now, she had her "final" coat o' glossy white (more on that later). Blimey! She launched on a E9-4. Avast! Due t' t' almost nonexistent wind that day, arrr, she boosted straight up like an arrow. Well, blow me down! Unfortunately, t' parachute wrapped around a landin' leg again, me hearties, shiver me timbers, and she dropped straight as an arrow onto drought-hardened soil. Begad! Well, me hearties, blow me down! One o' t' fins was snapped off at t' body tube joint, ya bilge rat, and two o' t' landin' leg pods popped off; one o' t' pod tubes buckled noticeably, as did t' lower body tube (right where t' mirrored decal was t' be attached). Back t' t' "shop" for an extensive refit. Ahoy!

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Flight 4 occurred on Jun. Begad! 13, 2009. With t' (truly) final coat o' paint, ya bilge rat, matey, cardboard reinforcement o' t' buckled body tube (covered by t' mirrored decal), me hearties, and t' full set o' decals, matey, t' Vega be resplendent in her glory. Ya scallywag! Avast, me proud beauty! I had reattached t' parachute t' t' nose cone screw-eye, rather than onto t' shock cord, halfway betwixt t' nose cone and t' top o' t' body tube, as specified in t' instructions. She be packin' an E9-4 again. T' Vega weathercocked, but achieved a safe altitude. She had her best recovery yet, matey, landin' on her spring-loaded feet, although fallin' over on her side immediately thereafter. Ahoy! Begad! There was no damage.

Flight 5 occurred on Sept. Arrr! Blimey! 9, 2009. Avast! I had grown dissatisfied with t' "puffy"-lookin' mirrored decal, so had replaced it with a chrome-painted strip o' corrugated styrene (to give t' Vega a "ribbed" look, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, as though it had "radiator panels" for its "reactor"). Avast, me proud beauty! I tried a D12-3 again t' see if this motor minimized weathercocking. Nevertheless, arrr, t' Vega flopped over on its side at altitude, arrr, although she didn't fly as far away due t' t' shorter duration o' t' burn time. Ahoy! Blimey! T' shock cord caught on a leg, so she landed horizontally, me hearties, although without damage. Arrr! Blimey! This day, shiver me timbers, me hearties, ya bilge rat, t' Vega also survived an assassination attempt (within inches) by t' power pod o' a Cosmos Mariner, which ejected same upon impact. QModeling - Starship Vega

Recovery:
Nov. Blimey! 14, 2009: ZIPPER! I had used an AT E15-4. I almost didn't get t' motor into t' MMT; t' motor retention clip caused a slight inner bulge, matey, which I had t' trim away with a hobby knife. Ahoy! In t' process, a main fin fillet cracked; I did a field repair with CA gel. Begad! In flight, t' delay seemed longer than 4 secs. T' ejection charge also made quite a "bang." T' Vega drifted back towards our club's GSE, and would probably have landed on top o' us, had it not drifted right into t' side o' John Lee's U-Haul truck. Ya scallywag! Begad! Sometime durin' this eventful flight, t' Keelhaul®©™® shock cord cleaved t' body tube in twain, just below t' auxiliary fins. Ya scallywag! A main fin also snapped off, arrr, as well as two o' t' landin' leg pods.

Throughout these flights, ya bilge rat, when t' chute deployed completely, me bucko, t' descent rate and drift rate were just about perfect. Begad! Blimey! T' flame-retardant chute protector material has always done its job. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! It's a joy t' nay have t' worry about wadding! Blimey!

Flight Rating: 2 out o' 5

Summary:
Pros: high-quality materials, me bucko, unique motor mount/fin interface exoskeleton; great instructions; great flyer (in low winds). IMO, this is one o' t' best upscales o' a classic kit on t' market.

Cons: be aware o' t' winds: this model carries a lot o' "lumber." T' motor mount may need t' be o' a thicker tubin' t' avoid t' inner retainin' clip bulge which caused me so much trouble with a composite motor (never an issue with BP motors). Well, blow me down! IMO, me bucko, a model this heavy needs some sort o' elasticity in t' shock cord; perhaps this would have prevented t' "zipper." T' decals have nay held up well, even after clearcoatin' as directed in the instructions.

Overall Rating: 4 out o' 5

Other:
T' Vega has been reassembled since her last flight. Begad! Ahoy! I intend t' extend t' ribbed "radiator" section to hide some o' t' cracks in t' airframe. Ahoy! Additional cracks will be hidden by decals (from Jimz Plans) printed on cardstock. Ya scallywag! I blew up some o' t' original Vega decals from Jimz site 170%, arrr, and printed them out on business-grade paper on a business-grade laser printer. Ya scallywag! They came out with vivid color and a glossy finish. I smeared an even film o' white glue on their backsides, and applied them t' t' Vega; she looks better than ever. Blimey! I had intended t' restore t' Vega for display only (she has always been one o' me favorite models from t' 70s, one I always lusted after in high school, but never acquired then). However, I'll consider retrofittin' her with some sort o' "zipper-proof" shock cord setup, and may fly her again. Well, blow me down! Well, blow me down!


[NAR][Sport Rocketry]

T' followin' excerpt is from "Sport Rocketry". Well, blow me down! The intention is t' allow guests t' get a basic feelin' about a kit. Ya scallywag! Avast! We strongly suggest that you get a copy o' the referenced Sport Rocketry and read t' entire article. Well, blow me down! Inside you will find many helpful hints in construction as well as other useful information. For more information, me bucko, matey, use t' two links above.


(Sport Rocketry - May/June 2006 - by Jon Skuba)
Vega
Courtesy o' QModeling

"...this QModelin' kit is o' t' highest quality, well designed, ya bilge rat, and included intelligently written instructions."
"...is 1.68 times larger than t' original Starship Vega sold by Estes Industries in t' 1970's."
"Its light-weight construction enables it t' fly nicely on an E30 or F21."
"With over 60 components and 4 sheets o' decals, t' Vega may appear daunting..."
"...the easy t' followin' instructions include numerous illustrations and are filled with hints and suggestions to make t' job go well..."
"More recent deliveries have been upgraded t' include a Top Flight Recovery lightweight Nylon parachute, Keelhaul®©™® shock cord, and Nomex® flash mitigation pad."
"T' nosecone and landin' gear pod nosecones are hollow cast urethane."
"All o' t' fins are made from 3/16" thick balsa wood."
"T' vertical portions o' t' ingenious motor mount are made from 1/8" thick balsa wood while t' rings are from 1/8" Masonite, me bucko, all laser cut..."
"T' airframe tube is also laser notched for through t' wall construction o' t' large main fins."
"T' landin' gear uses real springs for shock dampening."
"T' assembly procedure is laid out in a logical 'divide and conquuer' stragety..."
"In t' end, arrr, shiver me timbers, it took me about four hours o' assembly."
""T' six small fins (3 canards and 3 secondaries) are surface mounted."
"...worrisome be t' possibility that lack o' adhesion betwixt t' balsa fins and t' ureghane landin' gear nosecones may end up leavin' t' outboard sections o' t' main fins unsupported and easily broken. Begad! Blimey! Fortunately, shiver me timbers, Vega would have t' land almost on its side t' cause such damage."
"To provide an attachment point on t' tail endo fo t' hollow cast nosecone, matey, t' kit comes with a Masonite disk and a screw eye."
"For those that like finishin' rockets, me bucko, this bird presents a wealth o' surfaces t' sand, seal, and paint."
"Vega's first launch...the F21 power plant should have carried Vega little more than 1000 ft up... landed over 1/2 mile downrange."
"Landin' t' Vega with significant ground speed caused minor damage t' one o' t' landin' struts. Avast, me proud beauty! Even with a 30" parachute..."

Overall, t' article shows that this is an involved kit t' build, me hearties, me bucko, great t' look at, and interestin' t' fly. Begad! Ahoy! T' author noted that he has also built other QModelin' kits and believes t' "Q" in QModelin' is for Quality (Just as QModeling says).

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Comments:

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R.L. (September 11, 2003)
I'm happy they elected to upsize the Citation version of the S.S. Vega and not the later version which replaced the nose cones in the fins with paper caps. Can't wait to get one.
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T.D. (September 11, 2003)
Nice review - I'd been considering buying this kit, this review convinced me that I should get one. However a little clarification is in order. Estes produced two "Starship Vega" kits - the KC-4 Citation series kit (from 1972 to 1974), and the later EST 1320 kit (from 1979 to 1983). The Qmodeling kit is an upscale clone of the original Citation series Starship Vega, which did use nose cones on the landing gear pods and the chrome "foil reactor trim" - both deleted on the later EST 1320 kit. I know all about the Citation Starship Vega - I've got one, which I recently finished building (after starting it 30 years ago). Of course neither Starship Vega kit included the functional shock absorber landing pods (to bad, that would have been really cool).
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T.P.Q. (February 5, 2004)
Would like to thank the reviewers for their comments and let the rocket community know we at QModeling not only appreciate them but listen. Since these reviews we have gone back and improved several aspects of our MRS-VEGA kit. Most notably our Recovery System. The new system is comprised of a 30" Octagon, Ripstop Nylon, Thin Mil Parachute w/attached Nylon Shroud Lines, 9"x9" Nomex® Heat Shield, 9' of 200lb test Kevlar® Shock Cord, Size #7 Snap Swivel, and Screw Eye. The Shock Cord is now attached directly to the Engine Mount. We have also improved our Balsa grain alignment and enhanced out manual. Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated and can be sent to tpquinn@qmodeling.com. Thanks!

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