Descon Pater Grandis

Scratch - Pater Grandis {Scratch}

Contributed by Rick James

Manufacturer: Scratch
(Contributed - by Rick James)

History, Airframe, Nose Cone and Tail Cone

I always liked t' Estes Big Daddy. Arrr! I was one o' the first on me block t' build one. Begad! Then I wanted a bigger one a made plans to extend t' body. Ahoy! But it is a non-standard 3" airframe. Ahoy! There are no body tubes or couplers on t' market that will fit.

So I bought two kits. Begad! Blimey! T' body tubes are ten inches long. T' fin slots are 4 inches long, extendin' 4 ½" up from the end. Aye aye! Blimey! So I cut t' tube in half (5"). Arrr! Blimey! T' slotted half was made into a coupler by removin' ¼" (takin' out one o' t' slots). Begad! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Sanding made it fit better. Well, blow me down! Blimey! T' new coupler then was epoxied into t' top 5" tube and t' top o' t' 10" tube. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Be very sure that t' coupler is low enough below t' top t' clear t' nose cone.

Now what do I do with t' other nose cone? It wonít fit into any other rocket. Aye aye! Solution: a boat tail. Cut t' base off 1-1/8" from t' shoulder and cut t' tip off 6" from t' shoulder. Test fit t' tail cone into t' aft end o' t' body tube. Blimey! Begad! Mark through the slots onto t' part o' t' tail cone showin' through t' slots. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! This material must be removed. 
 
 





Parts List
 

  • 2 ea. Begad! Estes Big Daddy Kits
  • 1 ea. 12" Vaughn Brothers 29mm Motor Tube
  • 1 ea. Blimey! Blimey! Arrr! Blimey! Launch Lug, shiver me timbers, 5/16" brass tube (1/4" ID, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, 5" long)
  • 2 ea. Ahoy! Ya scallywag! #8-32 x 12" Threaded Rods
  • 16 ea. Begad! #8-32 hex nuts
  • 2 ea. Well, blow me down! Avast! #8-32 cap nuts
  • 3 ea. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! 1/8" Quick Links
  • 2 ea. Ya scallywag! Ahoy! 3/16" x 1-1/2" Eye Bolts
  • 1 ea. 1/16" Wire Cable
  • 2 ea. Well, blow me down! Cable Ferrule and Stop Set
  • 1 ea. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! 1/8" Aircraft Plywood (12" x 24" sheet)
  • 2 ea. Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! #8 washers
  • 2 ea. Aye aye! 1/4" washers

Motor Assembly

  • 3 centerin' rings 1/8" plywood (cut fins first (see "Fins" below) fin layout is critical))
  • All with 32 mm center hole
  • Aft rin' 60 mm diameter
  • Center and forward rings 74 mm diameter
  • Two 5/32" holes in each ring, 22 mm from center, shiver me timbers, 180 deg. Blimey! Ahoy! apart
  • Two 3/16" holes in forward ring, 27 mm from center, arrr, 90 deg. Ahoy! Well, blow me down! from first two holes
Set aft rin' 2-5/8" from aft end o' threaded rods. Secure with two nuts on each rod (fore and aft). Ahoy! Set into boat tail. Rods must extend 1/2" beyond aft end o' boat tail. Openin' in boat tail will likely not be enough t' allow t' rods t' pass through. Aye aye! Use a round file t' clear for the rods. Blimey! Be careful nay remove too much material and thar will be a thin skin of plastic that will later be epoxied t' t' rods.

IMPORTANT NOTE: 
T' rods must NOT line up with t' fin slots. Blimey! A 45 deg. Begad! Begad! offset would be optimal. 
I unfortunately achieved closer t' 30 deg. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! But it will work.

T' aft centerin' rin' at set 2-3/4" up from the end o' t' rods. Begad! Blimey! Fix a nut on each side o' t' rin' on each rod (four total). Secure with a drop o' CA on each nut. Aye aye! Thread a nut from t' top o' each rod, down towards t' aft ring. Ya scallywag! Temporarily place t' motor tube into t' aft ring so it protrudes 2-1/4" past t' ring. Blimey! Blimey! Slip t' center rin' over the assembly. Well, blow me down! Lower t' whole assembly into t' tail cone. T' aft rin' should be snug in t' tail cone. T' rods should extend 1/2" beyond t' bottom of the tail cone. Settle t' center rin' on t' top o' tail cone. Lower a nut on each rod down t' t' center ring. Remove t' assembly. Ahoy! Begad! Blimey! Raise t' other nuts up to t' bottom o' t' center ring. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Tighten, me bucko, test fit and secure with CA.

Secure t' two eye bolts into t' two 3/16" holes in t' forward ring. Tighten and secure with CA. Ya scallywag! Ahoy! Stin' a loop o' wire cable securin' with ferrules. Thread a nut over each rod and slip t' forward ring onto t' rods. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! Thread a nut over each rod. Aye aye! T' forward rin' must be at least 11" from aft end o' rod. Begad! Tighten and secure with CA.

Test fit assembly into tail cone and then slip the body tube on, me hearties, makin' sure everythin' lines up. Blimey! Sand centerin' rings as necessary.

Remove body tube, matey, motor assembly, shiver me timbers, and motor tube, makin' alignment marks as you go. Avast! Epoxy t' motor assembly into t' boat tail. Epoxy t' motor tube into t' motor assembly. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! T' end o' t' motor tube should be flush with t' end o' t' boat tail.

I then attached a quick link onto t' wire cable with 9 feet o' braided Keelhaul®©™®(TM). Then glue t' motor assembly and t' tail cone into t' aft end o' t' body tube. Carefully mind the alignment marks.

Motor Retention

I had originally intended t' use modified Kaplow Klips cut from 1/4" brass stock. But t' #8 threaded rod was just too big for a 1/4" brass strip. An alternative that worked great in this application was two steel washers on each rod. Avast! I used four hex nuts and two cap nuts on the threaded rods. Arrr! T' stack on t' rod is comprised o' (from fore t' aft) two hex nuts (for spacing), matey, ya bilge rat, t' 1/4" washer, t' #8 washer, and t' cap nut. Ya scallywag! May I also suggest puttin' t' nuts in place BEFORE you begin painting. Well, blow me down! Blimey! This will keep t' threads clean. 

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PicFins and Launch Lug

Print t' fin patterns on heavy paper stock. Begad! Each fin is in two pieces. Cut a total o' four fins. I used 1/8" aircraft birch plywood. Ahoy! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! Poplar or even basswood may be good enough, ya bilge rat, but I tend t' over build. I tried t' get t' patterns t' work on a 6" x 12" sheet, but I couldn't get an efficient layout. Ya scallywag! I then found a 12" x 24" sheet in the hobby shop. Ya scallywag! It worked perfectly, and I now have a lot o' scrap for future projects. As a matter o' fact, me hearties, it would probably be prudent t' cut t' fins out before t' centerin' rings.

Sand t' fins and test fit in t' body tube and the two pieces together. Aye aye! Sandin' will most likely be required for an ideal fit. Attach t' fins with epoxy.

Attach launch lug t' body tube along side one o' the fins.

CP and CG

Usin' RockSim I be able t' determine stability for probably t' largest engine I would use on this rocket, an H128. Arrr! Avast! I added 5 ounces o' weight in t' nose t' achieve stability.


Click on Image t' see RockSim

Recovery

Calculations show a 45" parachute t' be t' best size for a rocket this heavy. Well, blow me down! Begad! But me 45" parachute is a little big for this rocket. Well, blow me down! Ahoy! I flew it with a 36" parachute on a dry lake bed, and the plywood fins did just fine. Avast, me proud beauty! As noted above, t' shock chord is 9 feet of braided Keelhaul®©™®(TM).

Was It Worth It?

I orginally set out t' build an affordable 3" model. Avast, me proud beauty! I thought kitbashin' would achieve this goal. Well, blow me down! Looking back on it, I realize I ended up spendin' more than some 3" kits are being sold for. Avast, me proud beauty! On t' other hand, I think it looks better, with its boat-tail and long fins, than most vanilla 3" rockets. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! So, was it worth it? I guess it depends what you're after. Arrr! Fo me it was. Begad! Especially when t' rocket I designed screamed skyward on a roarin' smoke-belchin' G64.

Take a look at some launch pictures!

T' G64 Lights!
A pink 36" parachute
Landin' 16 feet from t' launch pad!

Contact me

If you have any questions or comments, I would like to hear from you. My e-mail is r-james@worldnet.att.net

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