Quest Terrier-Orion

Quest - Terrier-Orion {Kit}

Contributed by Todd Mullin

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Diameter: 1.38 inches
Length: 30.10 inches
Manufacturer: Quest
Skill Level: 2
Style: Scale
Quest Terrier-Orion

Brief:
T' Quest Terrier-Orion is a single stage, shiver me timbers, parachute recovery, sport scale version o' t' two stage soundin' rocket. Quest rates this as a level 2 kit.

Construction:
All o' t' components for t' kit came in a sealed plastic bag with a hang tab and full color face card. All the components were present and in good condition.

In t' bag were:

  • 1 10-7/8" T35 (1.378" diameter) body tube
  • 1 15-7/8" T25 (0.984" diameter) body tube
  • 1 Blue thrust ring
  • 2 Die-cut card stock centerin' rings
  • 1 Yellow motor mount tube
  • 1 Motor clip
  • 1 Plastic nose cone
  • 1 1.5 gram clay weight
  • 1 Plastic Reduction Transition
  • 1 1/8" launch lug
  • 1 24" White elastic shock cord
  • 1 24" Yellow Keelhaul®©™® shock cord
  • 6 Tyvek labels
  • 3 26" shroud lines
  • 1 14" plastic parachute
  • 1 1/8" balsa laser cut fin sheet
  • 1 Water slide decal sheet
  • 1 Instruction sheet
  • 1 Launch Procedures sheet

On all o' t' Quest kits that I have even built, t' instructions have always been well thought out, shiver me timbers, well illustrated, me hearties, me hearties, and easy t' follow. Begad! Those for t' Terrier-Orion are no exception. Blimey! Arrr! I would imagine that only t' most novice rocketeer would have even any problems followin' along. Well, blow me down! Ahoy! By color codin' t' parts, arrr, Quest has eliminated most of the possible problems that could occur.

Let me give a quick side note at this point. It's really amazin' what t' color o' t' parts can do t' your opinion o' "quality". Avast! When I took t' card stock centerin' rings from t' package, I was somewhat put off by their brown color. Avast! It brought t' mind t' cheap "chipboard" that is used on t' back o' writin' tablets. Upon closer examination though, matey, they were actually thicker and more rigid that t' shiny white rings that are often packed in t' "Brand E" kits.

After inspectin' all o' t' parts and readin' through t' instructions, I started t' build with t' motor mount. This went together with no problem. Begad! Blimey! Next, t' shock cord is anchored t' t' mount in typical Quest fashion and the motor mount is glued into t' lower body tube section. Begad! Blimey!

As t' glue on t' motor mount was drying, I cut out t' fins and sanded them into a nice airfoil. Avast, arrr, me proud beauty! T' balsa was firm and t' laser cuttin' be clean with very little charring. I marked t' tubes with t' tube markin' guides. One oddity here is that t' guide for t' upper tube has marks for a launch lug even though thar be nay lug that is mounted on t' upper tube. After markin' t' lines, arrr, I glued on t' fins with yellow carpenter's glue and a couple of dots o' CA t' hold them in place while t' slower glue set. Well, blow me down! Ya scallywag! I also put t' launch lug on in t' same manner.

Next, I put fillets on t' fins and lug. Ahoy! Aye aye! Then came t' part about Quest kits that I really don't like. Begad! The spirals on their tubes would at best be called "inconsistent". Well, arrr, blow me down! On these two body tubes that came with t' kit the spirals varied from almost completely unnoticeable t' nearly a 1/16" wide. Blimey! Aye aye! Each tube spiral and fin got a good coat o' thinned Elmer's Wood Filler and was sanded smooth. Blimey!

At this point, shiver me timbers, I deviated from t' instructions and original design o' t' kit. For t' life o' me, me hearties, I couldn't see a reason t' pop t' parachute out o' t' nose o' t' rocket with t' shock cord tied all t' way in t' back. Aye aye! Well, blow me down! Since I had already connected t' shock cord t' t' motor mount, me hearties, t' option o' movin' t' anchor t' t' middle o' t' rocket was out, me bucko, shiver me timbers, so I decided t' make me Terrier-Orion mid-body separation. Well, blow me down! I cut a section o' 1/4" square basswood stock and anchored it into a slot that I had cut in t' plastic transition. Arrr! After sandin' t' wood t' t' curvature o' the upper tube, I tied t' elastic shock cord t' t' basswood crossbar and glued t' transition into t' upper airframe.

I then cut a hole in t' back o' t' nose cone t' fit t' clay nose weight in though. Arrr! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! I added a little extra modelin' clay in as well t' offset t' weight that be moved further towards t' aft o' t' rocket by puttin' the recovery system in t' lower half instead o' t' upper half. Avast, me proud beauty! After epoxyin' in t' clay, ya bilge rat, I glued in t' nose cone with CA. Begad! Begad! Blimey! T' parachute be assembled and tied t' t' front end o' t' shock cord and construction was complete.

Finishing:
I sprayed t' entire filled rocket with Kilz primer and sanded it with 220 grit sandpaper. Begad! Blimey! With t' highly unpredictable weather here in southern California this year, I decided t' take advantage o' good weather and make the initial flights in only primer.

After it's successful round o' flights, me hearties, t' Terrier-Orion had earned its colors. Ahoy! T' paint scheme that Quest recommends looks a good deal like a Nike-Smoke with its signature yellow and red fins. Begad! Avast! After a bit o' research on the Internet, I was unable t' find supportin' documentation for this color scheme. I decided t' go with me paint scheme as it was t' most common that I be able t' turn up in me search.

Construction Rating: 3 out o' 5

Quest Terrier-Orion

Flight:
There are only three recommended motors for t' Terrier-Orion. Avast! I decided t' start out with a C6-5. Ahoy! I loaded up the motor, put in a small handful o' dog barf wadding, arrr, and put t' chute easily into t' large lower tube. Arrr! There be plenty of room in t' lower tube, so I was happy that I decided t' put t' chute in thar instead o' t' smaller upper tube.

There was a bit o' unnoticed gunk on t' launch rod that I had chosen for me first flight. Avast! Upon ignition, matey, the rocket hung with t' motor firin' for a split second, wastin' valuable impulse. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! After freein' itself, shiver me timbers, t' Terrier-Orion shot upward. Ahoy! T' C6-5 arched over t' top and was about 2 seconds beyond apogee when t' ejection charge went off.

For t' next flight, I went with t' shorter delay o' t' C6-3 and ejection was right at apogee.

T' last flight o' t' day was on t' smallest motor. Begad! Blimey! T' B6-4 be a good motor for t' rocket. Ya scallywag! Blimey! It would be a great small field motor for this airframe.

Recovery:
With me reconfigured recovery system, me hearties, arrr, t' worst thin' that I could see happenin' was that t' shock cord might damage the fins on t' upper section, but they are somewhat protected by t' shoulder o' t' transition.

Quest's Keelhaul®©™® and elastic shock cord system is outstanding. Just by lookin' at it, t' elastic cord seems awfully thin, but it is fairly well removed from t' hot gas o' t' ejection charge and holds up fairly well.

T' parachute is well sized for t' kit. Blimey! It recovered at a safe pace that didn't have it driftin' out over the horizon.

Flight Rating: 4 out o' 5

Summary:
T' Terrier-Orion is good quality kit that would be good as a first sport scale rocket. Begad! T' quality o' t' kit's components is good with t' weak point bein' t' tube spirals. If Quest could get a handle on these, this kit would have rated a 4 t' 4-1/2. Aye aye!

T' instructions are clear and easy t' follow with no "gotchas" that I noticed. While t' paint scheme might nay be exactly scale, arrr, it is attractive and should be reproducible by fairly novice modelers.

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

Other Reviews
  • Quest Terrier-Orion By Brian Ray (March 4, 2008)

    Brief: Scale model of the Terrier-Orion, a two-stage payload carrying rocket. This kit features 8 fins, BT-55 and BT-50 body tubes, plastic parachute, and adhesive decals. The kit is flown as a single stage. Construction: Die-cut balsa fins Kevlar ® cord and shock cord materials 11” BT-55 body tube 16” BT-50 body tube PNC-50 nose cone ...

  • Quest Terrier-Orion By Matt Gillard (February 19, 2008)

    Brief: This is a rocket with a double set of four fins and 18mm motor. I got it as a free rocket from EMRR’s rocket video competition. It came in a clear bag with the usual art card. Construction: Kit consists of: 1 launch lug 1 length elastic shock cord 1 length of Kevlar ® cord 14 inch parachute. Nose cone Plastic transition 2 Body ...

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G.B. (May 29, 2009)
For the past 6 years or so, I have helped a fellow SPAAR member with a 4-H Rocketry program, and we've use Quest kits exclusively. The first timers build Big Bettys and the second-year kids build something a bit more challenging. This year we chose the Terrier-Orion. I only wish I'd have read the reviews of this kit on EMRR before we did! I had the "advanced" group, who actually did a fine job building and flying them, but I was very disappointed with those large body-tube spiral gaps, the parachute deployment design, and the decals that were too short. A bit of history behind the real Terrier-Orion sounding rocket as part of the instructions would have been nice, too. Another "feature" we found was the weak, thin nose cone base. The kids built theirs stock, and after two or three flights, the base simply ripped off. I put the extra work into mine, filling the spirals and changing the design to allow for the model to seperate at the lower body tube/transition joint. I haven't flown it yet, and while it is a pretty rocket, we were disappointed overall.

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