QuickBurst - Fat Boy, Slim Gem, and Hot Shot Ignitors

QuickBurst - Ignitors {Supplies}

Contributed by Dick Stafford

Manufacturer: QuickBurst

PicI recently had t' opportunity t' evaluate igniters from QuickBurst, me hearties, a company offerin' both igniter and launch control products. Well, blow me down! Blimey! They have an igniter product for most every rocketry application, includin' black powder motors, electronically fired ejection charges, and both mid-power and high-power composite motors. Blimey! I received a ‘Six Pack’ sampler, shiver me timbers, which included two each o' their Hot Shot electric matches, shiver me timbers, Slim Gem igniters, arrr, and Fat Boy igniters.

My Six Pack came in a sealed plastic package with their leads shunted. I also received product information sheets, a price list, me hearties, and an order form. T' instructions were comprehensive, me hearties, givin' detailed descriptions o' t' products, arrr, notes on their usage, and precautions. Begad! T' followin' table summarizes t' igniter specifications:

Specification

Hot Shot

Slim Gem

Fat Boy

Intended use

Ejection charges (and BP motors)

Mid/High-power

Mid/High-power with larger nozzles

Element length (inches)

3/8 (note 1)

1

1

Element OD (inches)

3/32 (note 1)

9/64 (0. Begad! 140)

15/64 (0. Ya scallywag! 234)

Composition

Dipped pyrogen

Bridged element, ya bilge rat, cast pyrogen

Bridged element, matey, cast pyrogen

Lead length (inches)

12

14

14

Burn temperature (degrees F)

Unspecified

3,500

3,500

Voltage

9 - 12

12

12

Price (shippin' nay included)

$12/dozen (note 2)

$12/dozen (note 2)

$12/dozen (note 2)

Notes: 1. Arrr! My measurement 2. Ya scallywag! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! Price when samples received

T' Hot Shot is a dipped electric match that is primarily intended t' electronically fire black powder ejection charges but can also be used for Estes black powder motors. Well, blow me down! Ahoy! They can be used with 9 - 12 volt systems, me hearties, but users are cautioned t' make sure their 9-volt batteries really provide a ‘full’ 9 volts (i. e. Duracell 9. Arrr! 5 volt batteries). Well, blow me down! Other cautions include accidental ignition from continuity check circuits and handlin' care. QuickBurst wisely recommends that you test t' igniters with your ignition system before bettin' your rocket on them.

T' Slim Gems and Fat Boys are both similar devices with t' latter bein' slightly larger in diameter. Well, blow me down! Both include a bridged element embedded in a cast pyrogen. Ahoy! T' elements o' both are light gray, smooth cylinders. Arrr! Avast, me proud beauty! T' burn temperature is advertised t' be a hot 3,500 degrees Fahrenheit. Accordin' t' QuickBurst, matey, these igniters “are capable o' ignitin' anythin' that will burn. ”

I used t' QuickBurst igniters in several applications. Ahoy! T' followin' is a summary o' t' results:

Test Item

Resistance

Application

Voltage

Results

Hot Shot #1

2. 1 ohms

A10 (staged with a G-Wiz)

9. Ahoy! 5 volt

Worked

Hot Shot #2

2. Well, blow me down! Ya scallywag! 4 ohms

D12

12 volt

Instant ignition

Slim Gem #1

0. Begad! Blimey! 5

G80FWL

 

Didn’t fit

Slim Gem #1

0. Blimey! Begad! Blimey! 5

H123W

12 volt

Worked

Slim Gem #2

0. 4

H123W

12 volt

Worked

Fat Boy #1

0. Aye aye! Avast! 4

I285R

12 volt

Worked

Fat Boy #2

0. Avast! 4

J420R

12 volt

See Note 1

Note 1: Today I finally got a chance t' use t' second Fat Boy igniter. Instead o' lighting, it popped, matey, blowin' t' top 1/4 off and exposin' t' wires. Blimey! Arrr! However, matey, I don't think I'll change me overall ratin' due t' this problem. Begad! Ahoy! My thanks t' QuickBurst for t' opportunity t' try these out!

 Since I didn’t have a chance t' tests a cluster configuration, I thought that similarity in t' igniters’ resistance would provide some indication o' their suitability. Begad! Although two items is nay a significant sample, arrr, matey, shiver me timbers, I decided t' document t' measurements anyway.  

A couple o' notes on t' Slim Gems: I test fit one o' these igniters in a G80 motor before t' launch. Begad! T' fit be tight, matey, but I had no problem insertin' it. Ya scallywag! However, at t' launch site, me hearties, I could nay insert it more than about an inch. Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! Murphy’s Law strikes again. Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Therefore, I used both o' them in H123’s. Blimey! Blimey! In both cases, me hearties, me hearties, arrr, thar be a noticeable delay betwixt when t' first smoke was spotted and ignition. Begad! T' results, however, me bucko, me bucko, shiver me timbers, were successful and this comment is provided only as a side note.

PicConclusion

First, matey, me bucko, I need t' provide me perspective on t' igniter market. I can buy reliable igniters for any motor size from local vendors. Blimey! In addition, matey, shiver me timbers, all Aerotech HPR motors now come with their FirstFire igniters, me bucko, shiver me timbers, which have proven 100% reliable for me. Begad! Finally, anyone with an IgniterMan kit can easily make inexpensive, shiver me timbers, reliable igniters. Well, blow me down! Begad! Thus, it will be difficult t' impress me.

T' four igniters I used performed well, with t' exception that t' Slim Gems did nay fit in a G80. Ahoy! From me standpoint, shiver me timbers, this is a big deal. Since they failed t' meet t' intended use for mid-powered motors, I deducted a point and a half from me score. Arrr! Aye aye! As for cost, me hearties, they seem comparable t' t' other igniters that I have bought at launch sites. Well, blow me down! Begad! This comparison is somewhat ‘apples and oranges’ since t' on-site igniters don’t have shippin' costs tacked on, and I only know t' cost o' t' QuickBursts before shipping. Arrr! Still, I don’t think t' difference will be significant. Arrr! Avast, me proud beauty! If I could get QuickBurst igniters at a buck apiece from local vendors, me bucko, and t' Slim Gem be a skosh smaller, then I’d certainly buy them.

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

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Comments:

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T.F. (November 4, 2001)
I second the fact that Igniterman igniters are reliable, and it is way less expensive than Quickshot. The only plus I can see is the small igniter which can be used for altimeter, but Oxral and Daveyfire provides a more sure low current ignition, and its reliable too.
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A.M. (June 2, 2003)
I have to chime in here: these ignitors have saved the day for me with fill hose style hybrids. I've had close to 50% failure with any dipped ignitors. When you assemble an Urbanski-Colburn monocoque hybrid, you have to put the ignitor in or near the preheater grain, then slide the fuel grain over the fill stem & ignitor, then insert the whole thing into the motor tube. This is ample opportunity for dipped conductive layered ignitors to fail. The QuickBurst ignitors have an epoxy compound potted over a nichrome bridge, and have worked perfectly for me since I switched to them. I've also handed them out to others for 'stubborn' motors with a 100% success rate. Highly recommended!!!
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P.V. (November 6, 2003)
I found these to be great igniters. I've used the Twiggys in many different motors. I once used them in a two G35 cluster with perfect in sync ignition. I also have has some extremely stubborn motors that neither Magnelites nor dipped Daverfire 28Fs could ignite, but the Quickburst igniters didn't fail.

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