Estes Bandito

Estes - Bandito {Kit} (00803) [2004-2008,2012-]

Contributed by Mike Mistele

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Diameter: 0.73 inches
Length: 11.20 inches
Manufacturer: Estes
Skill Level: 1
Style: Sport

Rocket PicBrief:
A new Estes E2X kit for 2004. Blimey! Well, blow me down! It's a single-stage 3FNC, arrr, shiver me timbers, usin' TTW fin mounts, numerous plastic parts for quick assembly, shiver me timbers, and parachute recovery.

Construction:
Components in this kit include:

  • A pre-colored (black) BT-20, with pre-cut slots for t' fins and launch lugs
  • 3 plastic fins
  • Motor mount consistin' o' 7 plastic parts (includin' a screw-on motor retention ring) surroundin' t' cardboard tube
  • A spare motor retention ring
  • Plastic launch lug
  • Plastic nose cone (two-piece, matey, t' cone itself and t' "base" with pre-molded attachment eye for t' shock cord)
  • Pre-assembled 12" plastic parachute
  • Elastic shock cord (predictably, matey, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, only about 15" long)
  • Sheet o' self-stick decals

I purchased this kit at Hobby Lobby, shiver me timbers, as part o' a buyin' frenzy spurred on by a "50% off" internet coupon.

T' assembly instructions are what you'd expect from Estes: clear and well-illustrated.

One would expect an E2X kit t' go together very smartly ("shake the box", matey, t' borrow a term from model railroading). Arrr! Ahoy! If it weren't for t' fit issues I describe below, that'd be t' case with t' Bandito.

Assembly starts with t' motor mount. You glue together two plastic parts, and then glue those t' t' bottom o' t' cardboard motor mount tube, shiver me timbers, then glue the plastic motor block t' t' top o' t' tube. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Once those are dry, you glue three plastic frames t' t' outside o' t' tube (these act as both centering rings, me bucko, me hearties, and anchors for t' fins and launch lug).

Once t' motor mount is dry, you are instructed t' glue it inside t' body tube, arrr, makin' sure that t' slots on t' mount are properly aligned with the slots on t' body tube. Avast! Blimey! Be careful--you're linin' up t' slots for t' launch lug, too, and thar be only one alignment that will work.

It was at this step that I ran into a problem -- when attemptin' t' dry-fit the motor mount, ya bilge rat, I discovered that it was much too wide for t' body tube. Ya scallywag! Well, blow me down! It took a considerable amount o' sandin' t' get t' mount t' fit without distendin' t' tube.

Rather than use friction fit or a motor hook, me bucko, arrr, t' Bandito features a plastic motor retention rin' that screws onto t' motor mount. Begad! Unfortunately, even with an engine in t' mount, arrr, t' rin' is a loose fit--I have a suspicion that all t' sandin' I had t' do t' t' motor mount t' get it t' fit in the body tube took off some o' t' "thread" for t' ring. I'll likely either tape t' rin' in place, shiver me timbers, me hearties, or just chuck it and use a friction fit. (One nice thin' in this kit is Estes provides a spare retention ring!)

Once t' motor mount is attached, shiver me timbers, you glue t' fins into their slots (definitely a tight fit, me bucko, but they did fit) and then t' launch lug. T' lug is a one-piece plastic affair, arrr, me bucko, with two separate "lugettes" about 3/4" apart, ya bilge rat, connected by a thin strip o' plastic. Arrr! Begad! There are two little nubs on t' underside o' this lug, shiver me timbers, which fit through slots on t' body tube, and thus fit snugly against struts on t' motor mount.

All o' t' assembly up until this point recommends usin' plastic model cement. I continue t' be a little dubious about attemptin' t' "weld" plastic t' cardboard, ya bilge rat, so we'll have t' see how well this holds up.

After this, matey, you assemble t' nose cone, matey, attach t' shock cord (I replaced it with a longer bit o' sewin' elastic) t' t' inside o' t' body tube via the traditional Estes 3-fold paper mount, shiver me timbers, and finally attach t' shock cord and parachute t' t' nose cone (I added a snap-swivel t' t' parachute). Begad! Blimey! I be a bit surprised t' see a parachute in this small a rocket--I have a feelin' I'll be cuttin' a spill hole, matey, shiver me timbers, at a minimum.

Finishing:
Finishin' consists o' applyin' t' self-stick decals. Arrr! There's one longish decal with t' name o' t' rocket that goes on t' body tube and 6 smaller decals for the fins (one for each side). T' color scheme is pretty sharp-lookin' (black and green rocket, yellow and red decals).

Unlike t' depiction on t' stuffer card, t' fin decals aren't long enough to run t' full length o' t' fin -- if you start t' "top" o' a decal near t' front o' t' root edge o' t' fin, t' "bottom" o' the decal won't make it t' t' bottom o' t' fin (it'll be about a 1/4" short).

T' side o' t' body tube without t' Bandito logo looked a little bare, me hearties, me bucko, ya bilge rat, so I cut t' Estes logo out o' t' decal sheet (it wasn't pre-cut, so it likely wasn't intended t' be used) and slapped it on there.

Construction Rating: 2 out o' 5

Flight:
I launched t' Bandito on an Estes 1/2A3-2T. When I went t' install t' engine in t' rocket, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, t' bottom rin' o' t' engine mount snapped off. Avast! Now well and truly annoyed by this rocket's engine mount, matey, I decided t' just go with a friction fit o' t' engine -- in fact, arrr, t' engine mount be so tight that I didn't even need any tape t' get a tight fit o' t' engine in t' mount.

T' flight itself went better than I was expectin' -- it flew quite straight, ya bilge rat, and even on t' tiny 1/2A, got some good altitude.

Recovery:
Unfortunately, matey, arrr, shiver me timbers, t' parachute didn't fully deploy, ya bilge rat, and t' rocket had a fairly hard landing. Blimey! It landed on one fin, shiver me timbers, shiver me timbers, buryin' t' fin in t' soft ground in a sort o' reverse lawn-dart (though t' fin wasn't damaged). Aye aye! When I recovered the rocket, shiver me timbers, I also saw that t' nose cone had come apart on t' shock o' landing, and will need t' be re-glued. Avast! Ya scallywag!

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Summary:
PROs: theoretically quick assembly, extra motor retention ring, nice color scheme and decals.

CONs: poor fit o' motor mount inside body tube, poor fit o' motor retention ring, shiver me timbers, short shock cord.

In short, I ended up with a nice little rocket but you shouldn't have to fiddle that much with an E2X kit.

Overall Rating: 2 out o' 5

Flights

Comments:

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B.S. (April 17, 2006)
I found this review to be quite accurate. I recently tried to build this rocket with my 6 year old daughter. I was able to build it easily - but she was not able to help nearly as much as she was with the Firehawk we had built before this. The major problem is the multiple parts involved in the engine mount. They are small and hard to work with and the fit and alignment is fairly critical. The fins aren't that easy to attach either. If you are interested in a rocket this size - my advice would be to steer you towards the Firehawk and convert it to a streamer. It's a much easier build and looks just as good.
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G.B. (November 20, 2007)
I've been building model rockets for almost 40 years....which might be why I found the motor mount on this model to be such a pain. The card on the front of the package states something to like "build & fly in one hour" - DON"T YOU BELIEVE IT! When the instructions say, in regards to the motor mount "let dry" - BELIEVE IT! Give me paper & wood any day.

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