Estes Super Neon

Estes - Super Neon {Kit} (2050) [2007-2011]

Contributed by Larry Brand

Construction Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Flight Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Overall Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Diameter: 0.98 inches
Length: 22.10 inches
Manufacturer: Estes
Skill Level: 2
Style: Ring/Tube/Cone Fin

Estes Super Neon

Brief:
Super Neon is an updated 2007 re-release o' an older kit. Well, blow me down! Avast, me proud beauty! It is what I would call a "fantasy" tubefin in that it has decorative stub fins supplementin' t' 6 tubefins that provide t' actual stability t' create a futuristic appearance. Arrr! Blimey! T' packagin' highlights its "Space Age Tubular Fins". Begad! Well, so maybe they're nay "stub fins", maybe they're coolin' plates for t' hyper-leptonic fusion tube-drive impulsor units. Its rated a Skill Level 2 kit, shiver me timbers, and for good reason (unfortunately).

Construction:
Airframe mainly consists o' an 18" piece o' BT-50 tubin' and six 3 1/2" BT-50 motor tubes adapted as t' tubefins. Well, matey, blow me down! Six small balsa stub fins and t' usual Estes nose cone assembly, motor mount with hook, ya bilge rat, and recovery system rounds out t' materials package. Blimey! Avast! A set o' waterslide decals is included. Avast! Arrr! Usual excellent quality and fit o' materials.

Estes Super Neon

As a fan o' tubefins, ya bilge rat, I was very happy t' see Estes add one back t' its product line. I purchased t' kit at a local launch and decided t' review it. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Given t' generally draggy nature o' tubefin rockets and t' added drag contributed by t' 6 stub fins, I was very skeptical o' t' packaging's claimed "flights up t' 1000 feet!" I don't think so--certainly nay on t' largest recommended motor, matey, a C6-5, arrr, and with t' combined drag o' both t' 6 tube fins and t' 6 conventional fins. I kept remindin' myself that this be a "fantasy rocket", otherwise its nuts t' combine normal fins and tube fins. Ahoy! Blimey! Well, blow me down! Blimey! Comparatively speaking, a belt and suspenders doesn't hold your pants up any better, however, me biggest criticism o' this kit comes from t' poorly thought-through instructions, shiver me timbers, which usually is a strong point o' Estes kits. T' construction approach be miserable, matey, ya bilge rat, apparently cobbed together by somebody (the subcontractor in China?) who had never before built a tubefin rocket. Blimey! Rather than rely on t' tried and true self-jiggin' method that is typically used on tubefin kits, ya bilge rat, o' attachin' t' 6 tubefins in pairs with t' body tube restin' on a flat surface, ya bilge rat, Estes gives t' rocketeer instructions with a weird and overly complicated geometric line-markin' method t' locate t' individual tubefin positions on t' body tube as if they were conventional fins. Aye aye! This is just nuts and guaranteed t' produce misaligned tube fins if t' slightest mistake is made! After installin' t' motor mount assembly per t' Estes method, I threw away these awful instructions and put me Super Neon together t' right way:

Estes Super Neon

  1. With body tube on a flat table top, left and right tube fins, also positioned flush with t' table, me hearties, were attached simultaneously. Begad! I use 5-min epoxy, usin' as little as possible t' save weight and allowed t' dry.
  2. To this assembly, two more tube fins were glued in place, matey, shiver me timbers, on top o' t' body tube and in contact with t' previous 2 tubes.
  3. After drying, t' assembly be turned over, and t' two remainin' tube fins were attached t' t' bottom o' this assembly, which are also self-jigged into place by contact with t' two adjacent tubefins. Aye aye! No ink lines, ya bilge rat, no measuring, no door frames needed.

I attached t' stub fins t' t' tube fins as shown in t' instruction drawings, 3mm from t' top o' t' tubes and centered. Ahoy! Blimey! It is OK t' use t' T.L.A.R. Begad! Blimey! method ("That Looks About Right") t' position t' stub fins, me hearties, since Estes doesn't really say how t' do this. Well, blow me down! Blimey! I can see this bein' really frustratin' t' do with Elmer's glue. Ahoy! Blimey! It is a snap with 5-min epoxy--just dip t' end o' t' fin in freshly-mixed epoxy, matey, ya bilge rat, let it almost set up, arrr, and then hold firmly in place perpendicular t' t' tube for a minute or so. Ahoy! Blimey! Crazy Glue would be another good method.

Recovery system was attached per t' instructions. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Note position o' t' launch lug, me hearties, matey, adjacent t' one o' t' triangular holes betwixt t' tune fins, so be careful nay t' slop glue betwixt t' tube fins since t' launch wire has t' pass through here.

Finishing:
I decided t' skip t' decals. Blimey! Ahoy! I don't like decals. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I planned t' paint t' Super Neon in t' colors depicted on t' package, me hearties, matey, aqua and purple, usin' Testor's rattle can products. However, initial test flights were made with t' rocket unpainted. Avast! Reason bein' that I expected t' performance on a C6-5 t' be far short o' t' claimed "up T' 1000 feet", arrr, and me plan be t' measure this exactly with a micro altimeter in a payload bay that I planned t' incorporate into t' ample body tube. Avast, me proud beauty! This be exactly t' case. Begad! Ahoy! Initial test flight be clearly well under a thousand feet. It wasn't even close. Arrr! So a payload bay was simply included by sawin' t' upper 6" o' body tube off and gluin' t' its bottom a bulkhead from an unused Estes nosecone. Begad! T' Estes recovery system (toy plastic parachute and Estes notorious underpants elastic shock cord) was substituted with a proper 12" Top Flight light nylon chute and a shock cord made from 3' o' thin para cord. I attached this t' t' shortened body tube with a knot through a small hole drilled in t' tube and covered with half a BIC pen cover. Well, blow me down! Well, blow me down! This allowed precision measurements o' altitude with different motors and drag coefficient (Cd) calculation so maximum theoretical altitude could be extrapolated. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! See photos for t' now-modified "Payload" Super Neon. Blimey! I have rated Super Neon a generous "3" due t' poor instructions and construction method and for t' poor recovery system included with t' kit, me hearties, which after 35 years is in need o' updating.

Construction Rating: 3 out o' 5

Estes Super Neon Estes Super Neon

Flight:
T' savin' grace o' Super Neon is how well it flies (although maximum performance is far less than advertised), nay how high it flies. Well, blow me down! First flight on B-motors showed that a B6-2 be near-perfect. Begad! Flight on a C6-5 was nowhere near 1000' without t' 20g altimeter. Nor be it near 900', matey, 800' or 700'. Flight performance on a C6-5 after finishin' and t' addition o' a PerfectFlight Alt15k microaltimeter was 456' with Cd determined t' be a whoppin' 2.2 at 135 mph. Ahoy! Usin' this value o' Cd in me simulation program and correctin' for t' added weight o' t' altimeter, shiver me timbers, me hearties, gives only 520' calculated for flight without t' altimeter weight. Aye aye! Avast, matey, me proud beauty! Usin' a value o' Cd calculated from t' Super Neon dimensions o' 1.76 instead o' t' experimentally determined Cd o' 2.2 gives a calculated maximum altitude on a C6-5 o' 592'. Aye aye! Arrr! It is very unlikely that any Super Neon with its enormous drag could fly higher than 600' on a C6-5 in me opinion. Avast, me proud beauty! That said, ya bilge rat, ya bilge rat, Super Neon is a beautiful flyer on windy days, me bucko, risin' straight up with no weathercockin' whatsoever. Begad! Note launch rod angle in photo. Avast! Begad! This is a major advantage o' tubefins. Arrr! Avast! I don't know how high it flew on that day, but it be high enough that it landed on t' beach only 2 feet from t' waters o' Mission Bay, ya bilge rat, matey, blown by t' wind. Blimey! I didn't need that "1000 feet!" o' t' package advertisin' on that day and I'm glad I didn't have it.

Recovery:
Flight recovery was perfect on both t' original Estes chute and shock cord and on t' nylon/para cord unit I added later. Ya scallywag! Blimey! It is time that Estes updated its line with somethin' better than that antiquated elastic system they've been usin' since t' 1960's. Ahoy! Blimey! So I dinged t' score for that. Blimey! Blimey! T' miserable performance was balanced by t' wonderful wind resistance Super Neon displayed. Begad! Blimey! Its t' packagin' that needs fixing. T' rocket flies great!

Estes Super Neon

Flight Rating: 4 out o' 5

Summary:
T' product execution was disappointin' due t' poor instructions and buildin' technique. Fantasy rocket concept notwithstanding, me bucko, thar be no reason t' ever put conventional fins on a tubefin. Avast! It doesn't improve t' looks much, matey, arrr, and it messes up t' maximum performance.

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

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    Originally produced by Estes in 1991, the Super Neon was reintroduced on 2007. The Super Neon is a tube fin rocket that also sports small “stub” fins on each of the tube fins. The Super Neon flies on the standard assortment of 18mm black powder motors and uses a 12 inch parachute for recovery. The header card promises soaring flights to 1000 feet, which is beyond optimistic ...

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Comments:

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S.M. (April 7, 2009)
I built this kit with my son last year and have flown it several times. The rocket has given me straight flights every time and only once broke one of the fins off. When this happened it created a weak spot on the tube fin it was attached to but after reattachment it has flown flawlessly. I did change out the shock cord for a longer one but other than that it remains stock. The parachute can be a pain to stuff into the body tube along with wadding and the shock cord, but other than that it is fine.

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