Apogee Components Medalist Motors

Apogee Components - Medalist Motors {Motor}

Contributed by Nick Esselman

Published: 2010-11-13
Manufacturer: Apogee Components

Picture Courtesy of Apogee (10/10/01) Apogee's Medalist composite motor offerings allow a flier some variety t' t' standard suite o' motors. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me proud beauty! Especially for 18mm rockets that consistently fly on Estes and Quest motors.

Here is what Apogee says about their motors: "The Medalist line o' rockets motors feature ultra - high-energy composite propellant and are designed for special applications: either high thrust for launchin' heavier models, or extremely long burn times for achievin' ultra-high altitudes. Avast, me proud beauty! T' "hefty" liftin' motors are t' B7, C6, C10, and D10. All t' others (C4, me bucko, D3, E6, and F10) are long burn duration motors intended for use in low-mass, ya bilge rat, extreme-altitude rockets. Aye aye! All are produced in "standard" motor diameters for easy use in your existin' rockets. Includes an igniter and instructions for use."

I have flown t' B7, ya bilge rat, C4, C10, D3, shiver me timbers, D10, E6 and F10 motors. That leaves t' 13mm C6 as t' only one I have nay flown.

Rocket Vision Six-Pack D10-5Six-Pack D10

T' B7 and t' C6 are 13mm motors. Arrr! Blimey! Take your Estes Gnome to heights only imaginable on A3's and A10's! Blimey! T' B7 is 6mm longer than a standard Estes motor and t' C6 is nearly twice t' length. Well, blow me down! Blimey! So be sure t' check your center o' gravity and you might want t' decide if you are goin' t' use these motors before you build.

T' C4, shiver me timbers, C10, D3, me hearties, and D10 are 18mm motors. T' C4 and C10 are 19mm shorter than a standard Estes motor and therefore you should use an adaptor. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! I cut me adapter from a spent Estes motor casing. Begad! T' D10 is exactly the same dimensions as an Estes 18mm motor, while t' D3 is 7mm longer. Ahoy! The extra length only impacts those rockets with motor hooks, me bucko, but they can still be used with some tape for retention. Aye aye! Avast! Again, be sure t' check your CG/CP relationship.

T' E6 be t' 24mm motor and t' F10 be t' 29mm motor. Again t' E6 is just 7mm longer than a standard Estes D12 motor, shiver me timbers, me bucko, while t' F10 is in betwixt t' lengths o' an Aerotech EconoJet F20 and G35.

If you are used t' Estes motors be prepared for two things. Blimey! Blimey! First these are composite motors and they give a nice "roar" compared t' t' black powder motors. Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Second, t' ejection charges really "pop" on these motors so be sure t' have a solid recovery system. The old elastic/plastic are nay goin' t' cut it, ya bilge rat, in me experience. Avast! Begad! Use double the wadding!

FLIGHT:

For me 13mm experience, arrr, matey, I put a B7-6 into my quickly-built Rocket Rollie and took it for a spin. Avast! Wow! And I lost it!

I have flown t' C4 in my Custom Razor and me scratch 2-motor, arrr, cluster Red Dog. Avast! Begad! Lookin' back at me flight logs I noted nice trackin' smoke and my first experience with t' stronger ejection charges.

Modified Nordic Meanie on 3x D10-7's (all lit)Meanie on 3x D10's

I have flown t' C10 on t' same two rockets. Avast! Once on the Razor and twice on t' Red Dog. I flew it in a third recently; in me new Estes Night Wing™ which makes a nice combination on a C10-4. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! T' motor really gets these rockets off t' pad quickly, and with two (2) motors in my Red Dog....varrooooom. Blimey! Again, me bucko, I noted nice trackin' smoke.

I've only flown one D3 and due t' me experience at the time, didn't allow t' flight t' be successful. Aye aye! I flew it in my Vaughn Brothers Blobbo. Ahoy! It was under-powered and did a short, slow arc into the ground while still under thrust.

My favorite be t' D10. I have currently flown seven (7) of these. Arrr! Three (3) on me Blobbo, me hearties, one in my Rocket Vision's Six-Pack, matey, and three (3) as a cluster in my Modified Nordic Rocketry Meanie. Ahoy! I struggled on t' first two uses o' this motor (before it became a favorite). Begad! I tried (3) apogee ignitors before usin' a different kind for t' first use on me Blobbo. Then for a second flight on the Blobbo, t' motor CATO'd destroyin' t' back-end. Well, blow me down! Avast, me proud beauty! Apogee replaced t' motor, shiver me timbers, I rebuilt t' Blobbo and t' next flight restored me faith. Ahoy! Then flyin' these motors at NARAM-43 on me Six Pack (pictured above) and me 3-motor Meanie (pictured) made me desire t' have more. So I've placed an order.

After many flights on me original Vauhn Brothers' Blobbo it was retired after spendin' too long in a tree and rain storms, shiver me timbers, arrr, but I kept t' fins and nose cone. Arrr! Ahoy! I recently rebuilt and modified it, into me Blobbo 24mm. Aye aye! I built this rocket FOR t' Apogee E6. Avast! T' thrust-rin' and hook were all set t' handle t' length o' t' E6. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! And how did it go? Perfect. Ya scallywag! Ahoy! ( here is a very short video o' it comin' off t' pad). Well, blow me down! Blimey! Avast! Blimey! Nay a lot o' smoke produced from t' E6, shiver me timbers, but a nice initial thrust got t' rocket goin' straight up and then a 7 second burn was cool t' hear and see. It's nay like it took the rocket t' extreme altitudes, ya bilge rat, because o' t' weight, but t' have it under a long thrust be just fun t' watch. Well, blow me down! Blimey! I'll definately be buyin' more o' these for this rocket.

At NARAM-43. Begad! I also flew t' F10-6 in me Modified Nordic Rocketry Meanie. I tried t' get a video o' that, shiver me timbers, but messed up. Avast! Anyhow, the rocket be borderline too heavy but it did come off o' t' pad and straight into t' air. Aye aye! It was interestin' because it was still under thrust but seemed to run out o' steam. Blimey! Here's me take. Begad! T' high initial thrust o' t' F10 pushed the rocket into t' air nicely, but t' weight and drag o' t' rocket was slightly more than t' low thrust and especially that last second. T' Meanie had actually arced over (apogee) while under thrust makin' t' delay too long. Blimey! It be recovered without a problem.

Courtesy of Apogee My only real complaint are t' ignitors. Begad! Blimey! They generally come with a Copperhead type ignitor (other than t' C4 and D3 which have a special small head ignitor). t' Copperheads are inconsistent. Blimey! Avast! Blimey! Also, arrr, shiver me timbers, matey, a little Estes or Quest launch controller is probably nay goin' t' light these. Aye aye! Blimey! You will need a 12V system. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! I have been usin' t' Estes Command Controller (two 7.2V batteries) for t' last 5 years and it has handled everythin' very well!

Overall, matey, these motors give you a new experience for traditional Estes-motor powered rockets. Ya scallywag! Take a few buildin' considerations for the variations in motor sizes and be prepared for t' stronger ejection charges. Price will also need t' be considered, me bucko, because it is about a 3:1 ratio, ya bilge rat, arrr, in other words you can get (3) Estes motors for about a t' price o' (1) of these Apogee motors. Arrr! Avast! Okay, so these may nay become your main flyin' motors, but you should at least put away little extra lawn-mowin' or shovelin' money and buy a few o' these. Arrr! Ahoy! You'll want more and you should see t' faces o' people how have never experienced a composite motor before. Begad! T' "roar" is exciting. Ahoy! Sure, me bucko, sure, its nay a "J", matey, shiver me timbers, "K" or more, ya bilge rat, but I still fly these in me $9.95 Estes kits in me little field and without a waiver!. Well, blow me down! I give these motors an OVERALL ratin' o' 4 ½ points. Begad! Blimey!

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D.M. (June 4, 2005)
After being gone for some time, due to a fire at the manufacturing plant, the 24mm E6 and 29mm F10 motors are back. They're still pricey (at $15 and $20 each, respectively) but they're still worth it when you want an exceptional high performance flight. With their low thrust but very long burn (and apparently slightly longer now than before), these are intended for performance. They're for lighter rockets, as they don't have the start-up kick of an E9, but then that's what performance is about, minimum/optimal weight to maximum altitude. As an example, an Estes E9 will take my A.S.P. Kappa-9-M to about 1300 feet. An Apogee E6 will take it close to 1900'. Are they worth the 3:1 cost ratio vs. Estes E9s, or 2:1 vs. AT's F size Econojets? Sometimes they are. If these got NAR contest certification, it could give a boost to contest flying by giving some real performance choice to competition flyers.
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John Eric Thompson (October 20, 2016)

I happen to have the following in mint condition that I am going to put to use this year:

10.5mm
1/4 A2-4
1/2 A2-2
1/2 A2-4
1/2 A2-6medalist motors 1medalist motors2
A2-3 (x2 packages)
A2-5
A2-7
B2-3
B2-5
B2-7

13mm
B7-4
C6-4
C6-7

18mm

C4-7 (x3)

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