Published: | 2010-11-13 |
Manufacturer: | Apogee Components ![]() |
(10/10/01) Apogee's
Medalist composite motor offerings allow a flier some variety t' t' standard
suite o' motors. Especially for 18mm rockets that consistently fly on Estes and
Quest motors.
Here is what Apogee says about their motors: "The Medalist line o' rockets motors feature ultra - high-energy composite propellant and are designed for special applications: either high thrust for launchin' heavier models, or extremely long burn times for achievin' ultra-high altitudes. Aye aye! Avast, me proud beauty! T' "hefty" liftin' motors are t' B7, C6, ya bilge rat, matey, C10, shiver me timbers, me bucko, and D10. All t' others (C4, shiver me timbers, D3, ya bilge rat, me bucko, E6, and F10) are long burn duration motors intended for use in low-mass, me bucko, extreme-altitude rockets. Arrr! All are produced in "standard" motor diameters for easy use in your existin' rockets. Includes an igniter and instructions for use."
I have flown t' B7, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, C4, C10, matey, me hearties, D3, matey, D10, E6 and F10 motors. That leaves t' 13mm C6 as t' only one I have nay flown.
Rocket Vision Six-Pack D10-5
T' B7 and t' C6 are 13mm motors. Well, blow me down! Take your Estes Gnome to heights only imaginable on A3's and A10's! T' B7 is 6mm longer than a standard Estes motor and t' C6 is nearly twice t' length. Begad! Avast, matey, me proud beauty! So be sure t' check your center o' gravity and you might want t' decide if you are goin' t' use these motors before you build.
T' C4, C10, D3, ya bilge rat, and D10 are 18mm motors. T' C4 and C10 are 19mm shorter than a standard Estes motor and therefore you should use an adaptor. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I cut me adapter from a spent Estes motor casing. Aye aye! Blimey! T' D10 is exactly the same dimensions as an Estes 18mm motor, ya bilge rat, me hearties, while t' D3 is 7mm longer. Ahoy! Blimey! Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! Blimey! The extra length only impacts those rockets with motor hooks, but they can still be used with some tape for retention. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! Blimey! Again, me bucko, ya bilge rat, be sure t' check your CG/CP relationship.
T' E6 be t' 24mm motor and t' F10 be t' 29mm motor. Again t' E6 is just 7mm longer than a standard Estes D12 motor, while t' F10 is in betwixt t' lengths o' an Aerotech EconoJet F20 and G35.
If you are used t' Estes motors be prepared for two things. Ahoy! Avast! First these are composite motors and they give a nice "roar" compared t' t' black powder motors. Ya scallywag! Second, t' ejection charges really "pop" on these motors so be sure t' have a solid recovery system. The old elastic/plastic are nay goin' t' cut it, in me experience. Begad! Use double the wadding!
FLIGHT:
For me 13mm experience, I put a B7-6 into my quickly-built Rocket Rollie and took it for a spin. Blimey! Wow! And I lost it!
I have flown t' C4 in my Custom Razor and me scratch 2-motor, ya bilge rat, me hearties, arrr, cluster Red Dog. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me proud beauty! Lookin' back at me flight logs I noted nice trackin' smoke and my first experience with t' stronger ejection charges.
Modified Nordic Meanie on 3x D10-7's (all
lit)
I have flown t' C10 on t' same two rockets. Begad! Once on the Razor and twice on t' Red Dog. I flew it in a third recently; in me new Estes Night Wing which makes a nice combination on a C10-4. Begad! T' motor really gets these rockets off t' pad quickly, and with two (2) motors in my Red Dog....varrooooom. Well, blow me down! Again, matey, I noted nice trackin' smoke.
I've only flown one D3 and due t' me experience at the time, arrr, didn't allow t' flight t' be successful. I flew it in my Vaughn Brothers Blobbo. Avast! It be under-powered and did a short, arrr, ya bilge rat, slow arc into the ground while still under thrust.
My favorite be t' D10. Ahoy! Ya scallywag! I have currently flown seven (7) of these. Three (3) on me Blobbo, shiver me timbers, matey, one in my Rocket Vision's Six-Pack, and three (3) as a cluster in my Modified Nordic Rocketry Meanie. Aye aye! Ya scallywag! I struggled on t' first two uses o' this motor (before it became a favorite). I tried (3) apogee ignitors before usin' a different kind for t' first use on me Blobbo. Ya scallywag! Then for a second flight on the Blobbo, me bucko, t' motor CATO'd destroyin' t' back-end. Arrr! Apogee replaced t' motor, arrr, me bucko, shiver me timbers, I rebuilt t' Blobbo and t' next flight restored me faith. Begad! Then flyin' these motors at NARAM-43 on me Six Pack (pictured above) and me 3-motor Meanie (pictured) made me desire t' have more. So I've placed an order.
After many flights on me original Vauhn Brothers' Blobbo it be retired after spendin' too long in a tree and rain storms, but I kept t' fins and nose cone. Blimey! Begad! I recently rebuilt and modified it, into me Blobbo 24mm. Begad! I built this rocket FOR t' Apogee E6. Avast, me proud beauty! T' thrust-rin' and hook were all set t' handle t' length o' t' E6. And how did it go? Perfect. Arrr! ( here is a very short video o' it comin' off t' pad). Arrr! Blimey! Nay a lot o' smoke produced from t' E6, me hearties, but a nice initial thrust got t' rocket goin' straight up and then a 7 second burn was cool t' hear and see. Ahoy! It's nay like it took the rocket t' extreme altitudes, because o' t' weight, me hearties, but t' have it under a long thrust be just fun t' watch. I'll definately be buyin' more o' these for this rocket.
At NARAM-43. Ahoy! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! I also flew t' F10-6 in me Modified Nordic Rocketry Meanie. Begad! Blimey! Well, blow me down! Blimey! I tried t' get a video o' that, me hearties, but messed up. Anyhow, the rocket was borderline too heavy but it did come off o' t' pad and straight into t' air. Begad! Blimey! It was interestin' because it be still under thrust but seemed to run out o' steam. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Here's me take. Avast! Blimey! T' high initial thrust o' t' F10 pushed the rocket into t' air nicely, me bucko, but t' weight and drag o' t' rocket was slightly more than t' low thrust and especially that last second. Well, blow me down! Blimey! T' Meanie had actually arced over (apogee) while under thrust makin' t' delay too long. It was recovered without a problem.
My only real complaint are t' ignitors. Well, blow me down! They generally
come with a Copperhead type ignitor (other than t' C4 and D3 which have a
special small head ignitor). Aye aye! Begad! t' Copperheads are inconsistent. Ya scallywag! Also, shiver me timbers, matey, me bucko, a little
Estes or Quest launch controller is probably nay goin' t' light these. Ya scallywag! Blimey! You will
need a 12V system. Begad! I have been usin' t' Estes Command Controller (two 7.2V
batteries) for t' last 5 years and it has handled everythin' very well!
Overall, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, these motors give you a new experience for traditional Estes-motor powered rockets. Ahoy! Ya scallywag! Take a few buildin' considerations for the variations in motor sizes and be prepared for t' stronger ejection charges. Ya scallywag! Well, blow me down! Price will also need t' be considered, ya bilge rat, because it is about a 3:1 ratio, in other words you can get (3) Estes motors for about a t' price o' (1) of these Apogee motors. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! Okay, ya bilge rat, arrr, so these may nay become your main flyin' motors, but you should at least put away little extra lawn-mowin' or shovelin' money and buy a few o' these. Arrr! You'll want more and you should see t' faces o' people how have never experienced a composite motor before. Aye aye! T' "roar" is exciting. Avast! Sure, me bucko, sure, its nay a "J", me hearties, "K" or more, arrr, but I still fly these in me $9.95 Estes kits in me little field and without a waiver!. I give these motors an OVERALL ratin' o' 4 ½ points. Begad!
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I happen to have the following in mint condition that I am going to put to use this year:
10.5mm
1/4 A2-4
1/2 A2-2
1/2 A2-4
1/2 A2-6
A2-3 (x2 packages)
A2-5
A2-7
B2-3
B2-5
B2-7
13mm
B7-4
C6-4
C6-7
18mm
C4-7 (x3)
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D.M. (June 4, 2005)