Giant Leap Rocketry Talon 2

Giant Leap Rocketry - Talon 2 {Kit}

Contributed by Geof Givens

Construction Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Flight Rating: starstarstarstarstar
Overall Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Manufacturer: Giant Leap Rocketry
Style: Sport

Brief:
Who am I t' resist t' "sexiest kit alive"? Giant Leap's Talon 2 is a 48" tall, arrr, shiver me timbers, 2.1" diameter, ya bilge rat, 29mm mid/high power downscale o' their flagship design.

Giant Leap Talon 2

Construction:
Orderin' was a breeze and t' kit arrived undamaged despite severe damage to the shippin' box. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! Durin' t' orderin' and early construction phase, I exchanged several emails with Kent at Giant Leap and found him t' be extremely helpful regardin' t' shipping, kit components, motor retention, and flight/motor performances. T' kit components all seem top quality, me hearties, and include great extras like a 30" nylon parachute, me bucko, Keelhaul®©™® shock cord sleeve, Keelhaul®©™® chute protector, me bucko, me bucko, and conformal lugs. T' body tube and boat tail are pre-slotted. Blimey! T' fins are 1/16" (0.062") G10.

Construction be generally straightforward, but I did deal with a number of issues that are worth mentioning. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me proud beauty! I don't want me focus on these issues to detract from what overall is a good kit. This is only me second mid-power kit, so perhaps some o' me construction gripes should be taken with a grain o' salt. Nevertheless, construction was considerably more challengin' than what I experienced with me Binder Design Thug. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! After all, GL presumably wants to attract relative newcomers like me with this downscaled, matey, lower-priced Talon kit.

T' instructions are in paragraph form, shiver me timbers, but I prefer numbered steps. Ya scallywag! Begad! Blimey! You are explicitly invited t' call GL if you have any questions whatsoever during assembly--a very nice touch.

T' phenolic body tube had t' deepest spirals I had ever seen plus dimpled irregularities that were only revealed when t' first round o' fillin' and primin' revealed low spots. On t' positive side, matey, me hearties, t' tube be exceptionally thick and strong.

T' second CR is t' be glued flush "on t' end o' t' motor tube"--but which end? Someone nay visualizin' t' big picture might glue it on t' wrong end, me bucko, leadin' t' a major problem. Aye aye! Blimey! (Even t' first CR is slightly vague: 9.75 inches from one end o' t' tube t' which side o' t' CR?)

FlisKits Cougar 440 No positive motor retention is included. Kent says GL considered addin' a Slimline retainer to t' kit, but balked at t' $20 price hike. Blimey! Begad! I balked too and opted for the assembly shown in t' photo here, matey, arrr, which mostly retains t' "sexy" boat tail profile.

My biggest concern related t' assemblin' t' aft o' t' rocket, me hearties, especially the fins. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! Note that t' aft fins span t' seam betwixt t' boat tail and the body tube, so t' slots are half in each piece.

Now in one single step, shiver me timbers, you are supposed t' glue t' motor mount in the body, glue t' boat tail t' t' body, arrr, matey, and glue t' end o' t' motor mount to the end o' t' boat tail. Avast, shiver me timbers, me proud beauty! Blimey! (GL gives a clear, matey, highlighted warnin' t' use 30-min epoxy and be sure t' fully understand t' 3/4 page o' instructions about what must be accomplished durin' t' cure time.) This leaves a totally enclosed rocket. Then you are supposed t' apply epoxy t' t' ends o' t' 0.062 G10 fins, squeeze them through t' fin slots t' smear a little epoxy on t' motor tube, pull them out and repeat this procedure until sufficient epoxy has been applied to glue t' fin permanently.

T' fin slots are so thin and epoxy is so gooey this seemed rather unrealistic t' me--it's tough enough with bigger slots! Blimey! Couldn't thar be a way to retain access t' t' interior o' t' rocket, matey, so we could put internal fillets on t' fins, arrr, or at least see inside t' confirm that we got enough glue at t' root? I thought long and hard about this before divin' in. In t' end, t' fin and CR placements just didn't seem t' allow any choice that would clearly be better, shiver me timbers, me hearties, so I forged ahead as instructed. Arrr! However, t' ensure a secure bond for me motor retention brackets, arrr, I glued t' MMT t' t' boat tail first, ya bilge rat, me hearties, separately, me bucko, usin' t' dry body tube t' ensure alignment. I then glued this assembly in t' t' body tube in a second step.

Gluin' t' fins through t' slots turned out t' be nay nearly as messy and frustratin' as I had anticipated. T' G10 fins are so straight and t' slots are so precise that t' task went smartly with nay too much slop. Ahoy! With solid external fillets, maybe uncertainty about t' fin-to-motor-tube bond won't matter much.

My final concern related t' t' Keelhaul®©™® shock cord sleeve. Begad! Aye aye! (What a luxury t' be worryin' about that!) I followed the instructions and did nay slide t' sleeve on t' cord until t' very end. However, inside t' rocket, me hearties, t' cord ties on t' a steel cable looped through the upper CR. Begad! I had used a bowline knot and some CA drops. Well, blow me down! But t' knot so big and t' steel cable loop be so big and inflexible that I doubt I got the sleeve down all t' way t' protect t' very bottom o' t' nylon shock cord. I think it would have been better t' tell users t' place t' sleeve over the nylon cable (and maybe even anchor it thar with a couple o' Keelhaul®©™® thread stitches) before gluin' t' motor mount into t' body. Well, blow me down! This way, complete protection o' t' very bottom o' t' cord could be ensured. Avast!

Those were t' issues I encountered. Begad! T' rest was trouble free.

I beveled t' fins t' 15-degree edge usin' a homemade jig and a vibrating floor sander. Ya scallywag! Blimey! I used rail buttons instead o' t' lugs.

Finishing:
I do a first round o' fillin' and primin' before major assembly because it's easier, matey, but you need t' sand clear any spot where glue will bond. Begad! Aye aye! See t' photo of me final paint scheme. Avast! I like t' Rustoleum yellow because it produces a finish that seems almost plasticky. Aye aye! T' sticker provided by GL was high quality and usin' their detailed "hinge" instructions, matey, I got a very pleasing result. Ahoy! Two light coats o' Wal-Mart clear coat went over t' top o' everything. T' final result was spectacular.

PROs: outstandin' component quality and extras

CONs: some issues worth notin' durin' assembly

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
T' kids and I set out early Saturday mornin' t' a great new site in northern Colorado, arrr, despite t' cold, arrr, low clouds, and breeze. Well, blow me down! Fearful o' conditions worsening, ya bilge rat, I launched t' Talon 2 early in a very stiff breeze. Blimey! Little did I know that by t' end o' t' day it would be calm, ya bilge rat, clear, and 20 degrees warmer. Darn! T' winds were 10-15mph for t' first two flights and 5-10 for t' last one. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! We used AT G64-7W for t' first flight, and AT G64-4W for t' last two flights. Avast! All three flights were somewhat wobbly off t' 6 foot rail in the stiff wind, arrr, and (surprisingly) arced cross-wind or downwind. Aye aye! T' first flight was t' most severe, ya bilge rat, and t' delay way too long. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! T' bird was 2/3 o' t' way back down before t' chute opened. Blimey! We walked at least 1/2 mile downrange in a strong cold wind. Blimey! T' 4-second delay on t' next two flights was fine. Well, blow me down!

I think t' G64 is just enough motor for launchin' in these conditions. Avast! Well, blow me down! The fin profile is rather large, and t' big fins are quite a ways up t' body. Thus, arrr, ya bilge rat, matey, in t' wind t' Talon 2 struggled a bit t' orient itself off t' rail, but once it established a direction, me hearties, it was straight on its arc. Ya scallywag! With a more powerful boost or less wind, matey, matey, matey, I believe t' rocket would fly straight and true.

Recovery:
T' chute is a bit snug in its Keelhaul®©™® protector, but is perfectly sized for recovery. Ahoy! It opened fully and quickly each time. Avast, me proud beauty! Despite t' wind, matey, shiver me timbers, all three descents were swift but gentle. Avast! The rocket is almost totally unblemished after three landings. This is a testament to t' chute and t' t' quality o' t' materials.

I'm lookin' forward t' more flights on a calm day, and I must admit I wonder what she'd do with an H in her!

PROs: stable flight, arrr, me hearties, perfect recovery

CONs: nay fond o' stiff wind, tempts you t' certify

Flight Rating: 5 out o' 5

Summary:
It just looks so darn cool and flies great.

Overall Rating: 4 out o' 5

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G.H.G. (April 9, 2006)
Update to my review. Flew again in less wind; another great flight. However, on landing one fin pulled away from motor mount and external fillet tore away. Fin is intact and can be re-glued. However, this confirms my concern about not having access to fin/motor can during assembly. With more epoxy inside, or with internal fillets, I think this damage would have been preventable. I would deduct 0.5 points from construction and from total score, now that this has happened.

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