Estes Sizzler

Estes - Sizzler {Kit} (2171) [2001-?]

Contributed by G. A. Dean

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Overall Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Manufacturer: Estes

 

Brief:
Estes has used t' name "Sizzler" on several rockets down through t' years. Ya scallywag! T' latest t' carry t' name (Kit #2171) is a minimum-diameter screamer with swept fins like one o' t' earlier Sizzler's, me bucko, me hearties, but a new smaller size that gives it hot performance t' match it's fast styling. Arrr! Construction o' this kit is simple and straightforward, but some careful attention t' fin strength and finish will give you t' best result. A "C" motor will push this bird well out-of-sight at top speeds over 350 mph, so you'll want t' use your best technique t' build this kit strong and sleek but light.

Construction:
This is a simple kit with few parts. Avast, me bucko, me proud beauty! As a minimum-diameter rocket t' BT-20 body tube doubles as t' engine tube, so thar be no need t' build a separate engine mount. Well, blow me down! T' kit does include a motor retention hook, me bucko, which is mounted t' t' outside o' t' body tube and held in place with a paper sleeve. Aye aye! If you find this objectionable, either from an aerodynamic or an aesthetic concern, matey, I imagine you could leave out t' hook and friction fit t' motor, as similar Estes rockets like t' "Wizard" have always done. Blimey! I used t' hook.

T' three fins are die-cut balsa from very thin stock; a bit soft and very light weight. Ahoy! Arrr! A standard plastic nose cone, paper thrust ring, me hearties, 12 in plastic parachute, shiver me timbers, and typically too-short elastic shock-cord complete t' kit. Avast! There is a single peel-off decal with t' rocket name. Aye aye! All parts and t' instructions are very typical o' Estes kits.

Construction o' t' Sizzler is also very typical o' Estes kits o' this type. Avast! T' body tube is marked usin' a paper guide cut from t' instructions. Aye aye! T' tube is slotted t' hold t' engine hook and t' hook sleeve is glued over it t' hold t' hook in place. Ya scallywag! T' thrust rin' goes in t' tube. Ya scallywag! Avast! I used yellow 'wood glue' through-out.

T' fins must be removed from t' balsa sheet with some care, as they are thin and delicate. Begad! T' Sizzler gets it's good looks (in me eyes) from t' raked fins, ya bilge rat, matey, but t' long 'toe' on these fins can be easily broken if you handle them roughly. Avast, me proud beauty! T' fins also have a small inset into t' root edge t' clear t' paper sleeve that supports t' engine hook. Ya scallywag! Begad! Use your hobby knife t' clear these out. Arrr! Begad! I recommend that you sand t' fins for shape and smoothness before they are glued t' t' tube. Aye aye! Ya scallywag! I have built this kit twice (more on that later). T' first time I sanded a nice airfoil into each fin, shiver me timbers, which takes some care as they are delicate. Blimey! Well, blow me down! T' second time I opted t' just round/taper t' leadin' edge only. These fins need strength more than an inconsequential improvement in drag. Begad! I also 'painted' t' fins with thin CA for stiffness on t' second kit. Blimey! Well, blow me down! If you have never tried this technique this is a good kit t' learn on. Begad! Just place each fin on a flat surface (protected) and apply a small amount o' thin CA t' t' surface. Begad! Blimey! Then smartly spread t' glue with a bit o' balsa scrap or a Popsicle stick. Begad! I actually use wooden coffee stirrers, arrr, which are perfect for this or many other jobs around t' shop. Aye aye! Just be careful with t' thin CA as it can run and cause mayhem. Aye aye! T' glue will set smartly and can be sanded smooth.

You will have trouble gettin' these fins on t' tube straight and strong if you rush things, so take your time and get it right. Begad! Arrr! Use whatever technique works for you t' get a good tacky glue for settin' t' fin, me bucko, and t' support t' fin as t' glue dries. I put them on one at a time and use a thin strip o' tape t' brace t' fin in place while it dries. Aye aye! T' fin is light and t' tube has a small diameter, so everythin' has t' be done with a light touch. Yellow glue should give you plenty o' time t' make adjustments and get it positioned just right, shiver me timbers, so this shouldn't be too hard. Avast! Also make sure you sand t' body tube where t' fins will attach t' slightly roughen t' surface. Ahoy! I was also careful t' keep root edge and about 1/8'' up from t' root clear when I stiffened t' fin with CA and filled it with sealer. Begad! Ya scallywag! You want t' have a good surface for t' glue fillet t' bind to.

Installation o' t' recovery system is pretty simple. Blimey! Blimey! You start by settin' aside t' shock-cord and 12in. chute that came with t' kit. Arrr! Blimey! T' cord is too short, as is typical with many kits, but more importantly, matey, a 12 in. Avast! Blimey! chute is really big for a rocket this light. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Ya scallywag! Blimey! I think someone in t' Estes marketin' dept. Ahoy! Blimey! has determined that customers believe "real rockets use parachutes." Perhaps they're right, matey, but we all know better. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! A streamer is a better choice for this rocket. I went all out on me second Sizzler and attached some lightweight Keelhaul®©™ strin' t' t' body tube usin' t' standard Estes three-fold mount, and then tied that strin' t' t' elastic cord provided by Estes. Avast! Blimey! T' whole thin' is about three times as long as t' elastic cord alone, and will last much longer. Well, blow me down! Blimey! I tied a streamer t' t' elastic and put a small Pratt Hobbies heat shield on t' Keelhaul®©™® cord t' complete construction.

Finishing:
I put a bit o' effort into a smooth finish for this model, me bucko, shiver me timbers, and I imagine you will too. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! T' real reasons t' build this kit, instead o' some other inexpensive Estes kit, are its sleek looks or its fast, ya bilge rat, matey, high flights (or both!). In either case, a good, smooth finish in important. Begad! I applied a single coat o' sandin' sealer t' t' fins (after t' CA) t' fill t' last o' t' balsa grain. Blimey! Aye aye! T' other 'issue' one has t' deal with be t' engine hook, me hearties, t' sleeve that restrains it, and t' notch in t' root edge o' t' fins over t' sleeve. Avast! You could probably leave them entirely alone and nay notice t' difference, me bucko, but I wanted a good look, arrr, so I mixed up a batch o' thinned Elmers wood filler and created a smooth 'fairing' in front and behind t' sleeve, arrr, matey, and I filled t' notches in t' fins. Blimey! Avast! There is nay much you can do about t' engine hook.

Once all that was sanded smooth I applied a couple o' light coats o' grey primer, shiver me timbers, with a little bit o' sandin' with #400 grit, me hearties, and a couple o' coats o' gloss black. Ya scallywag! Then comes t' fun. Avast, me proud beauty! T' cool lookin' design you saw on t' kit card is nay a decal, its drawn free-hand with paint-pens or small brushes. Ya scallywag! Well, arrr, blow me down! I was a bit nervous about this on t' first Sizzler I built, but I do have some o' t' paint pens and gave it a try. Ya scallywag! Avast! It's nay as easy t' get t' paint t' flow onto a smooth, matey, gloss finish as I had hoped, me hearties, but it can be done. Some colors work better than others. Once you relax a bit and just paint on your design it turns out t' be kind'a fun, ya bilge rat, and I'm quite happy with t' look. T' rocket gets a lot o' "ooh, me bucko, look at that one!" comments, so I guess others agree.

I'll rate it a 4. It's just fine, me bucko, but you will need t' deal with t' external hook mount and t' short cord-big chute situation.

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
Its time t' explain why I have built two. Arrr! Ya scallywag! I be real pleased with t' first one and eager t' fly it. T' wind be blowin' at t' next club launch, me hearties, and I was "downgrading" most o' t' family rockets from "C" motors t' "B" impulse motors, arrr, t' keep them on t' field. Well, blow me down! I got into t' habit o' grabbin' a B6 and thinkin' o' it as me "windy-day" load. Blimey! T' end o' t' launch approached and I really wanted t' see t' Sizzler fly, so I grabbed another B6, I remembered t' use a long, me bucko, 6 second delay, but I forgot t' pull off t' chute and replace it with a streamer. Begad! Nay until t' LCO be countin' down t' launch did I remember that I had intended t' use an A engine on this rocket, arrr, but it was too late. Avast, me proud beauty! Ya scallywag! On launch t' Sizzler ripped off t' pad and laid down a thin line o' smoke that angled slightly into t' wind. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! necks snapped up and thar was an audible "oooh" from t' crowd. Begad! There was a funny lookin' twist in t' smoke trail and a sound from t' rocket that made me think! , "fin flutter", but everythin' held together and t' ejection occurred *way* up thar where t' 12 inch chute be a small dot. Well, blow me down! T' LCO turned around and said, me hearties, "start running", and I did. Begad! Ya scallywag! An our later we gave up on t' search; a little rocket on a big chute in a stiff wind, I oughta know better.

On t' second one I stiffened t' fins with CA as described above, arrr, in case what we saw really was fin flutter, me bucko, and used a streamer. Arrr! I have only flown t' rocket on A8-5's but it gives great flights on that motor and t' recovery is close by. Begad! T' last flight was a drag race with me son's Estes Wizard and it be a great, arrr, neck-and-neck race. Avast, me proud beauty! Lot's o' fun and t' two rockets came down on streamers within 30 feet o' each other.

RockSim predicts 1400 feet and 360mph on a C6-7, but I'm nay ready t' try it. Begad! Blimey! I like t' way this bird flies and recovers on t' A8-5 and streamer combination, and I recommend it.

Recovery:
I'll rate t' flight and recovery at a 4 1/2. T' kit may have some trouble at C impulse, fin flutter is a real risk with these thin fins; it certainly will be difficult t' find if you send it that high. Blimey! If you change t' a streamer and stick t' A and B motors I think this would rate a 5.

Flight Rating: 4 out o' 5

Summary:
I like this rocket and expect I'll always t' have one in me fleet. I'm sure that a beginner could get this kit together and get a decent flight out o' it, but thar are really better kits for that purpose. Ahoy! Aye aye! If you have built a few rockets and want t' try somethin' small, matey, but fast, look into t' new Sizzler. Well, blow me down! If you want some good fun on launch day, me bucko, build a fleet o' minimum diameter TFNC rockets like t' Sizzler, matey, Wizard, Star-Dart and Yankee, arrr, and drag race 'em on identical engines. We have already purchased two more Sizzlers that we will bash into a two-stage "Super Sizzler".

Overall Rating: 4 out o' 5

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Comments:

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B.E. (July 2, 2002)
Great review. I bought one of these for my son last summer and found your comments pretty much right on the mark. This is another in a long line of the minimum diameter rockets that Estes does so well. The only problem we've had with my son's Sizzler has been it's durability. Those thin fins, while good looking, have nothing going for them when it comes to strength. We've had some amount of damage on almost every flight, the worst being last fall when one fin literally shattered on an asphalt landing. It'll fly again. It just won't look quite as good. This would be a good candidate for using basswood for the fins in place of the stock balsa. When Sam first opened his Sizzler I wasn't too thrilled with the decal Estes had included, but this turned out to be a good idea after all. I think he had more fun painting his like the one on the card.
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D.M. (March 6, 2004)
The reviewer's comments are accurate, however, I flew my son's Sizzler on a C6-7 at Hearne, TX on 2/21/04 for a very perfect, out-of-sight flight that was recovered ok. You need to make sure you have a very large recovery area (Hearne, for those who don't know, is a seldom used airport with plenty of flying/recovery area, suitable for HPR). Also, the weather conditions is important (little wind, clear blue skies, etc.). Flew the rocket again on 2/28/04 here in Katy, TX on a Quest A6-4; didn't put tape around the engine (which I should have, due to the Quest engine's diameter being slightly smaller that the Estes engines). The rocket flew amazingly high on the A6-4, but pranged when the recovery system failed to even eject. Come to find out that the ejection gases simply escaped through the tiny space between the engine casing and bodytube, hence no real pressurization to the forward section. Repairs were simple, just cut the damaged bodytube just forward of the launch lug and spliced on another body- tube. It will fly again!
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J.M.C. (August 18, 2004)
Great review, just a note on my own personal experience with this rocket: I too decided streamer recovery would be better for such a small lightweight rocket. I have a Star Dart which is essentially the same rocket with different fin shape. Both rockets don't seem to accomodate 12" parachutes in the body tube with the rubber shock cords. (I have thought often to remedy those as well.) So I placed a lengthy streamer in the Sizzler hoping to alleviate spotting and recovery efforts. First flight on an A8-3 was perfect, rocket was recovered. Second flight was only on a B6-4 with moderate winds. The rocket launched and was out of sight, I regained sight of the rocket after ejection, and momentarily turned away to remove the safety key, and turned back and no rocket in sight. At all. The Sizzler was never recovered, though I still have the Star Dart and am quite afraid to fly it.

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