Apogee Components Heli-Roc

Apogee Components - Heli-Roc {Kit}

Contributed by Chan Stevens

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Manufacturer: Apogee Components
Apogee Heliroc

Brief:
A basic Rota-roc style helicopter (fixed blade), shiver me timbers, this is a reliable design and definite crowd pleaser. There's just somethin' cool about a true helicopter recovery rocket.

Construction:
T' kit arrived within 3 days o' placin' me order online and all components were complete and good quality. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Arrr! Blimey! Parts list includes:

  • BT-5 body tube
  • 10.5mm motor tube and centerin' rings (optional/see notes)
  • Balsa nose cone
  • Balsa fins (3)
  • Balsa blades (3)
  • Copter hardware (hinges, arrr, thread, wire, rubber bands)

Apogee's instructions are very well written, matey, featurin' good illustrations, and make this a manageable build even if it's your first helicopter. This was my second Heli-roc kit. Blimey! Ya scallywag! My first is a favorite flyer with about 15 flights and still goin' strong. Aye aye! Begad! This one be built for t' 2005 EMRR challenge. I wanted to try t' improve on its performance a bit and include a few tips along t' way.

Apogee Heliroc Construction starts out with preppin' t' fins. One o' t' key decisions you'll make on this is whether or nay t' paint t' rocket. Well, blow me down! Ya scallywag! Blimey! Typically, "performance" rockets do nay get painted, matey, but need some treatment o' t' unfinished balsa t' avoid warping. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! For me first one, ya bilge rat, I painted t' blades yellow and t' body green (sort of like a flyin' dandelion). Aye aye! Blimey! T' added weight definitely hurt altitude performance. Ahoy! For this build, shiver me timbers, I treated t' fins with a very thin clear dope after sandin' in a simple airfoil.

Apogee Heliroc Next up is marking the tube. This is a bit more complicated than drawin' 3 fin lines, so pay careful attention t' instructions. This uses a burn strin' method t' deploy the blades, me bucko, which means vents are needed for t' gases. Well, blow me down! Begad! Placement o' t' vents needs t' go above t' blades and oriented in a way t' avoid t' rubber bands. T' template included in t' instructions helps make sure everythin' is lined up just right.

After markin' t' tube and cuttin' out t' vents, shiver me timbers, you bond t' nose cone to the end o' t' tube. Begad! My nose cone shoulder be a bit too long, partially blockin' t' vents. Aye aye! This was easily corrected with a utility knife. Aye aye! If you want to get more than a dozen flights, you'll want t' coat t' base o' t' nose cone with a thin layer o' epoxy before bondin' it.

T' kit comes with an optional 13/10.5mm motor adaptor. Ahoy! Since 10.5mm motors are no longer available (or certified), ya bilge rat, me bucko, I skipped this. Ya scallywag! Avast! This kit has obviously been around for a while and t' adaptor is o' no use today.

Fin attachment is standard, although I used CA t' speed things up a bit. Very thin and light fillets are in order here, me hearties, as they get covered by the blades in flight and are o' no aerodynamic benefit.

T' instructions call out a split launch lug approach (one low/one high). Blimey! I chose t' avoid t' lugs entirely and use t' corner formed where blades join as the launch guide. Aye aye! This helps reduce t' drag slightly on what is a fairly high drag design.

T' blade construction and mountin' are by far t' most challengin' aspect of this kit but t' instructions walk you through it fairly well. For starters, helicopter blades do nay get t' symmetrical airfoil found on most rocket fins. They are only airfoiled on t' top surface. Also (and this is nay noted in the instructions), you only need t' airfoil about 2/3 t' 3/4 o' t' length o' the blade, matey, arrr, workin' from t' outer tip inward.

After airfoiling, shiver me timbers, I decided t' apply Japanese tissue for strength and color, which adds only a very slight amount o' weight. Blimey! Avast, arrr, me proud beauty! T' apply t' tissue, brush on a solution o' 50/50 Elmer's white glue and water, press and stretch the tissue, matey, and rub out any wrinkles with your finger. Aye aye! After t' glue has dried, trim away excess with a knife blade. I finish it off with a light wipe with rubbin' alcohol t' shrink t' tissue.

Apogee Heliroc Mountin' t' blades is where I benefited most from t' "do over" experience betwixt kit #1 and kit #2. Avast, me proud beauty! Ahoy! T' hinges are nylon and bondin' nylon t' a paper tube requires a good CA (I used t' Zap green bottle stuff). Avast! Gettin' even a tiny amount o' CA in t' hinge will ruin everythin' but goin' too skimpy on t' CA will result in a poor bond and you might lose a blade as a result. I folded me blades over and dipped t' hinged edge in Vaseline, ya bilge rat, makin' sure t' hinge joint be well coated. Avast, me proud beauty! Avast! This keeps t' CA out and was very effective. With t' greased hinge joint in place, I then CA'd t' hinge t' t' blade usin' an alignment template, then tacked t' other end o' t' hinge t' t' body tube. Avast! T' alignment is critical because you need a roughly 8 degree angle on t' deployed blade for maximum lift. Arrr! T' tack t' t' body tube is supposed t' be light--it just holds the blades in place. Blimey! Avast! Once t' blades are in place, you wrap a line o' Keelhaul®©™® around them and coat t' Keelhaul®©™® with thin CA t' permanently bond them.

Construction wraps up with t' deployment stuff. Ya scallywag! On t' blade, me bucko, this is a balsa piece mounted perpendicular t' t' blade with a tiny J-hook formed from the included music wire. Aye aye! On t' other end, thar's a J-hook mounted into the nose cone. Well, blow me down! Well, matey, blow me down! A rubber band joins t' two and snaps t' blade up into place when the burn strin' breaks. Aye aye! Avast, me proud beauty! I was pleased that this kit comes with extra rubber bands, arrr, as these are too tiny t' find at t' office supply store when you lose or break them. Ya scallywag! O' course, me hearties, betwixt buildin' both kits, me son went through braces and I managed t' score about 1000 "free" replacement bands (ignorin' t' obvious dent t' t' wallet for t' braces themselves).

T' last aspect o' construction is drillin' t' holes for t' burn string. Since snagged burn strings are a common failure in competition, matey, one tip I'll pass along is t' put a drop o' thin CA on each hole, shiver me timbers, then use a small file to smooth t' edge.

After drillin' for t' burn string, me bucko, shiver me timbers, me bucko, it's also a good idea t' apply a layer of mylar tape t' t' underside o' t' blades where t' gasses come out opposite the drill holes.

Finishing:
As noted, arrr, ya bilge rat, I went with a tissue finish. Avast! Blimey! While it's possible t' paint this, I tried it on me first kit and be disappointed with t' results. Arrr! Blimey! T' paint is very difficult t' keep out o' t' hinges, adds weight, and really doesn't add that much t' t' appearance. Ahoy! Blimey! Blimey! T' tissue approach adds color for a lot less weight. Blimey!

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
While I've had many successful flights on me first model, ya bilge rat, this one's first flight be less than spectacular. Arrr! Blimey! I be flyin' in fairly heavy winds (steady 10-12mph and gustin' t' 15 mph) and decided t' try it on an A10-3. Ya scallywag! It started fairly well off t' rod, ya bilge rat, me bucko, but at about 40 feet tumbled over horizontal then quickly nosed down and flopped on t' ground still under power. T' delay kicked in, popped t' ejection charge, and t' blades deployed perfectly, albeit way too late t' do any good.

No damage, matey, me hearties, but I'll definitely wait for lighter winds before flyin' this again. Begad! I'd never flown in more than about 6-8 mph winds previously on these models.

Recovery:
My first model generally has had no troubles save for t' occasional sticking burn string. Avast! #2 never had a chance on its first flight. Blimey! Blimey! I'll post a tip/update with feedback on further flights as I'm hopeful t' lighter build and improved construction will pay off in better flight performance.

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Summary:
If you're interested in helicopter recovery but nay quite comfortable trying the NARRRRR plan or rota-roc on your own, arrr, this kit is a great way t' start. Ya scallywag! It's based on t' rota-roc design, me hearties, reasonably reliable, and backed up with Apogee's good instructions, great materials, shiver me timbers, and excellent customer service.

Overall Rating: 4 out o' 5

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M.G. (January 1, 2001)
In constructing this model I found out that the nose cone covered the ejection exaust vents, I then trimmed the nose cone to clear the vent holes. I also found that the body tube was 13" long and not the 12" that the kit plans call for. Unfortunately this was right at the rotor attach step, and I wondered why the rotors were not as long as the ones in the pictures. They were, it's just that the body was longer! As a result my Heli-Roc rotor blades do not reach the bottom of the body tube. This hasn't effected the flight characteristics of the model at all. It still is a great flier on the Estes "Mini" motors.
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DBM (February 13, 2006)
I ordered a Heli-Roc kit as a re-intro to helicopter recovery after 25 years on hiatus (I had good success in the 70's using my own design based on Dave Griffiths' "Griffithcopter"). This is an easy to build kit and flies really well, however it is heavy for a 13mm rocket. The cast resin NC is the main culprit; I lightened mine significantly. Using 0.125" to 0.3" drills, I hollowed the NC down to about 3/32" max wall thickness (watch out for the wires embedded in the NC - and DO NOT do this with a hand drill, use a drill press and soft jawed drill vise!). You could also use a Dremel with a round cutting bit but but again, be very careful when getting near the 'roots' of the embedded wire hooks. I also used CA and Kevlar® thread (for the hinge wrapping) and thinned nitrate dope to seal the bare wood. Using colored tissue on the bottom side of the rotors would be a good idea! It flies great on everything from 1/4A's to full A's. I have not timed mine yet but I am getting consistently good flights, the only prang was a rotor hang-up that was my fault; no damage. After the first couple flights you'll see some burn marks on the rotors. I applied 3/8" squares of metal foil tape (real "duct" tape) on the scorched spots and it has prevented any further damage. You could probably use some tin foil and CA or epoxy to do the same thing. It also builds quickly, mine was done in only a few hours. I have found that pre-stretching the rubber bands helps in installing them and reduces the tension enough so that the rotors do not bow too much in the closed position. I take them off between flights and when in storage, they'll last longer that way. I drilled the thread holes in the BT out to 3/32" as it allows the burn thread to be installed much easier. I've also found that elastic thread burns through quicker and is much easier to use. All in all a fun build and great flyer; my success with it has inspired me to work on a 48" rotor diameter, 24mm version.

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