Modification Commander (x3) Modification

Modification - Commander (x3) {Modification}

Contributed by John Thro

Manufacturer: Modification

Rocket PicBrief:
I purchased three Quest Commander kits on clearance at Hobby Lobby, for a total o' about $8.50. Aye aye! Since I had three o' everything, I decided t' use all three body tubes t' build one long Commander. Begad! Also, I changed t' fin configuration from 3FNC to, as it turned out, 8FNC.

Modifications:
I assembled t' motor mount accordin' t' t' kit instructions, usin' white glue.

Since t' engine block has a v-notch cut into it for mountin' t' shock cord while still allowin' t' motor mount t' fit into t' BT, I also strengthened t' engine block with thin CA. Begad! This is a pretty standard step for me anyway, me bucko, but it's worth notin' here since t' engine block's structural integrity has been compromised by cuttin' into it. T' motor hook is mounted in t' usual Quest/Estes fashion, me bucko, shiver me timbers, by insertin' it into a 1/8" slit cut into t' motor tube just below t' engine block.

I then glued t' motor mount into t' first body tube with white glue, leavin' 1/4" protrudin' from t' end o' t' BT accordin' t' t' instructions. Begad! Avast, shiver me timbers, me proud beauty! This is a near-minimum-diameter rocket, so thar are no centerin' rings.

Here's where I deviated from t' stock assembly instructions for t' Commander. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! I took one o' t' spare motor tubes and cut it in half by markin' t' midline with a pencil, then lightly pressin' t' blade o' me hobby knife against t' pencil line while turnin' t' tube several times. After a few turns, t' tube be cut nicely in half, ya bilge rat, arrr, makin' two body tube couplers. Well, blow me down! Usin' white glue, I glued one coupler into t' top end o' t' first body tube, and t' second coupler into one end o' t' second body tube.

Once those joints were dry, I then used white glue t' glue t' second and third body tubes onto t' couplers, givin' me a 30" long body. Ahoy! Avast, me hearties, me proud beauty! Here's another different technique that I used for t' first time on this model, arrr, since t' couplers were fairly short. Begad! I fitted half a sheet o' copier paper around t' first body tube and taped it together t' make a snug wrap that could be slid along t' body tube. Avast, me proud beauty! Then at each body tube t' body tube joint, I slid this "alignment wrap" over t' joint until t' glue dried. Blimey! What I intended be for t' body tubes t' be aligned really well at each joint, and it looks like it worked perfectly. Begad! Ya scallywag! Also, t' seams look really nice, too. Aye aye! Nothin' out o' round, and no gaps betwixt t' ends o' t' body tubes.

T' Commander's instructions tell you t' feed t' shock cord back through t' motor tube before you glue t' tube into t' body, so it won't accidentally get glued into t' body. Now, since I had a 30" long tube for t' body, I needed t' add two more sections t' t' shock cord. Avast! Usin' t' Keelhaul®©™ cords from t' other two Commander kits and tyin' them together and then t' t' end o' t' Keelhaul®©™ cord already attached t' t' motor mount, I had a Keelhaul®©™ cord that extended about 3" past t' end o' t' body, arrr, once I fed it forward through t' body so I could attach t' elastic shock cord t' it.

I tied a 1" loop in t' end o' t' Keelhaul®©™ and then tied t' elastic cord t' t' loop. Ya scallywag! Aye aye! That way, me hearties, I didn't have 3" o' nice thin Keelhaul®©™ ready t' slice through t' end o' t' body tube. Avast! For t' elastic part o' t' shock cord, me hearties, I tied two o' t' provided 18" lengths o' elastic together. Then I tied t' nose cone t' t' end o' t' elastic per t' standard instructions.

All that was left were t' fins.

T' stock Commander has 3 die-cut balsa fins set 120 degrees apart. Begad! Two fins are larger and swept forward, and t' fin that's shown as t' vertical tailfin on t' packagin' is smaller and swept backward. Arrr! I decided t' use 4 o' t' large fins set 90 degrees apart, with two horizontal fins swept forward and two vertical fins swept backward.

Later, after usin' VCP t' find t' CG and CP o' this rocket, ya bilge rat, I found that it was *extremely* overstable, me bucko, with t' CG more than 10 body diameters (calibers) in front o' t' CP. Avast! T' reduce this, matey, me bucko, I did two things: I reduced t' span o' t' 4 large fins by cuttin' 1/2" off their tips, matey, arrr, and I added a set o' 4 o' t' smaller fins from t' Commander kits right at t' CG o' t' rocket. Avast! Reducin' t' span o' t' large fins didn't really move t' CP very much, me hearties, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, although t' model does look better with those fins a little smaller. Begad! Addin' t' smaller fins further forward on t' body did t' trick, matey, me hearties, though. Aye aye! VCP says that t' CG is now about 3 calibers in front o' t' CP. Begad! Now very nicely stable, me hearties, but nay extremely so, shiver me timbers, so I went with this configuration.

Sandin' and mountin' o' t' fins is standard, although I ran medium CA glue along all fin edges t' harden them, and then sanded t' edges smooth. Ya scallywag! I mounted t' fins t' t' body usin' CA glue and then added fillets o' white glue in two passes t' get decent-lookin' fillets. Begad! I also used a technique I learned here at EMRR, me hearties, arrr, which is t' punch small holes in t' BT along t' line where t' fins will be mounted, shiver me timbers, t' strengthen t' bond by creatin' glue "rivets" along t' BT. This also causes t' CA t' soak into t' paper o' t' BT at each "rivet" point, which should strengthen things even more.

Construction:
This kitbash uses:

  • 3 10" long Quest T-20 white paper body tubes (20 mm OD)
  • 1 Quest 18 mm x 2.75" motor mount tube, cut in half and used as body tube couplers
  • 4 o' t' larger Commander balsa fins
  • 4 o' t' smaller Commander balsa fins
  • 1 Quest 18 mm x 2.75" motor mount tube, used as t' motor mount tube.
  • No centerin' rings were supplied or needed, me bucko, me hearties, since this is a near-minimum-diameter rocket.
  • 1 o' t' supplied motor retention hooks be used.
  • 3 12" Keelhaul®©™ shock cords from t' Commander kits.
  • 2 18" elastic shock cords from t' Commander kits.
  • 1 stock 20 mm OD x 2.5" (not countin' t' shoulder) plastic nose cone.
  • 1 stock 1" x 24" hot pink plastic streamer, attached with a snap swivel for ease o' replacement.

PRO's:

Packagin' was good, no part missing, fit o' parts be fine. Begad! Instructions are t' standard Quest instructions, ya bilge rat, arrr, good illustrations and very easy t' follow. Very easy build, even bashin' three kits with me limited experience.

CON's:

Balsa fins were cracked in one o' t' three kits used in this project. Aye aye! Balsa was pretty soft and flexible. Well, blow me down! Die-cut fins were nay cut very cleanly, but at least they were all cut t' t' same size in all three kits.

T' only special technique be t' paper tube alignment wrap I used because o' t' rather short couplers that were made from a spare motor mount tube.

T' supplied BT's were nice shiny white paper tubes. I did no finishin' other than sandin' t' fins as described above. Begad! Ya scallywag! I generally fly me rockets without paintin' them, matey, but I'll probably prime/paint this one at some point.

Finishing:

Flight:
Recommended motors for t' stock Commander are A6-4 (first flight), matey, A8-3, shiver me timbers, B6-4, me hearties, C6-5, me bucko, C6-7.

Given t' increased weight over t' stock Commander and t' fact that I didn't have any A6-4's, I used an A8-3 for t' first flight.

Flight prep was t' usual insert waddin' - I used 3 squares o' Estes wadding, me hearties, matey, fold and roll up streamer, stuff shock cord and streamer into rocket, me hearties, put on nose cone. Avast! Blimey! Motor retention be by t' supplied motor hook. Blimey! Blimey! I used Estes motors, igniters, me bucko, and plugs.

First flight was at t' Challenger 498 club launch on 10-23-04, arrr, an intermittently rainy day at Rushin' Park in Katy, me bucko, Texas. Avast! Ya scallywag! Flight on t' A8-3 be straight and low, me bucko, matey, t' maybe 150 feet. Arrr! Ejection be slightly past apogee, arrr, ya bilge rat, after rocket had arced over.

Shock cord was three 12" sections o' Keelhaul®©™ and two 18" sections o' elastic tied end t' end, with Keelhaul®©™ mounted t' t' motor block and t' plastic nose cone tied t' t' end o' t' final piece o' elastic.

I installed t' provided streamer at a knot in t' shock cord about 2" below t' nose cone, usin' a snap swivel for easy change-out. Recovery on t' streamer was fine but faster than I like, arrr, which is true *every* time I use a streamer - I really prefer parachutes. Aye aye! Blimey! Winds on t' day I flew were pretty variable, so I used t' streamer instead o' a parachute. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Although t' streamer deployed just fine, t' elastic shock cord was looped around t' forward fins, so t' body came down somewhere betwixt horizontally and tail first. Begad! Blimey! T' rocket landed on an asphalt parkin' lot fins first, and about 1/2" from t' back o' one aft fin broke off along t' grain. Ya scallywag! Blimey! There was no other damage. This be t' only flight o' t' day and t' only flight so far.

Summary:
PRO's: I enjoyed buildin' this rocket. Blimey! It be me first kit modification, and I had t' think a little bit more than usual about t' build. This is a *good* thing! When I took it out o' me van at t' Challenger club launch, arrr, several people asked me what it was and told me how cool it looked, me hearties, shiver me timbers, which is *also* a good thing!

CON's: Overall, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, I can't really think o' any major CON's.

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