Quest Intruder

Quest - Intruder {Kit} (3001) [1992-?]

Contributed by John Lee

Published: 2010-11-13
Diameter: 0.98 inches
Length: 19.25 inches
Manufacturer: Quest
Skill Level: 3
Style: Futuristic/Exotic
I purchased t' Intruder™ purely for looks. Ya scallywag! T' "futuristic, interplanetary voyager" caught me eye and looked like a fun kit t' build. Blimey! Blimey! It has been an interestin' experience as you will see. Ahoy! It's a level 3 kit with parachute recovery and flies on 18mm motors (A-C). Ahoy!

T' kit came packaged in a long plastic bag with a detailed picture o' t' kit on t' front cover includin' even an inlay t' show t' unique fins. (picture from John Coker's Review)

Quest's instructions are fully illustrated and clear. Begad! Anyone with some Estes' kits under thar belt will have no difficulty with buildin' Quest kits. Begad! T' Intruder's instruction even illustrated clearly how t' tie a knot attaching the Keelhaul®©™® and elastic portions o' t' shock cord together. Clear measurements as t' where parts should align and t' assembly instructions were in a logical order. Final steps include sealing, ya bilge rat, paintin' and decal placement. Lastly, arrr, shiver me timbers, thar are guidelines for flyin' your Intruder™.

[Cover]T' kit uses a single 0.984" body tube, matey, plastic nose cone which needs t' be assembled, a motor mount assembly includin' motor clip, me hearties, one 12" Tuff-Chute™(plastic) parachute with shroud lines and gripper tabs, me hearties, a balsa wood sheet with t' 10 die-cut pieces that ultimately make up t' six fins, a piece o' Keelhaul®©™® and a piece o' elastic t' make up t' shock cord. Ahoy! Blimey! Lastly a decal sheet with nearly 40 decals. Ahoy! Blimey!

I used Quick Grab glue on this model (additional comments about Quick Grab glue) for everythin' except gluin' t' fin pieces together where I used yellow wood glue. Avast! Blimey! Well, blow me down! Blimey!

T' challengin' part o' this kit be t' assembly o' t' fins. Begad! Both t' Tail Fins and t' Wings consist o' two pieces o' balsa that need t' be glued together. T' do this, t' instructions suggest usin' a piece o' wax paper on a flat surface and alignin' t' two pieces with a straight edge. Well, blow me down! There was some sandin' required t' get a good fit o' the two pieces. Avast! Ya scallywag! Take your time. Ahoy! Aye aye! Once t' Tail Fins and Wings are assembled, me bucko, then assembly is straight forward.

There is an interestin' tip in Step 8 o' t' instructions. Arrr! T' nose cone is inserted into t' bottom o' t' body tube, tip first, matey, shiver me timbers, and while rotated is pressed inward. Well, blow me down! This is t' slightly stretch t' body tube for ease o' slidin' in the motor mount. Begad! T' same technique is used in Step 2 for t' motor mount centerin' rings.

One o' t' ways that Quest kits differentiate themselves from Estes is in t' shock cord mount and material. Everyone is familiar with t' ol' three-fold, matey, flat elastic method used by Estes (and Custom) which is glued near the top o' t' nose cone. Avast! Blimey! Quest uses a piece o' Keelhaul®©™® attached t' t' motor mount and tied t' a piece o' round elastic. Avast! Avast! Blimey! Overall, t' performance seems t' be better.

I followed me normal finishin' techniques usin' primer, sanding, me bucko, arrr, primer, sanding, shiver me timbers, primer, sandin' and then paintin' a gloss white. Avast! I then placed t' decals I wanted onto t' rocket. Ahoy! These decals are peel and stick, however, the instructions indicate that after peeled, they should be dipped in warm water that has a drop o' dish soap. Avast! This technique helps in positionin' t' decals before they stick. Aye aye! Blimey!

Overall, for CONSTRUCTION I would rate this kit 5 points.

T' flight o' t' Intruder™ is what has me baffled. Arrr! Well, blow me down! T' recommended motors are Quest A6-4, matey, B6-4, arrr, C6-5, and C6-7. Blimey! I first tried it on an A8-3.

T' flight actually fluttered around for a second or two and certainly didn't seem stable. Avast, me proud beauty! Well, me hearties, matey, I had an opportunity t' fly it again (although I hadn't changed anything) so I did on a B6-4. Well, blow me down! Blimey! This went up, however it seemed as if t' tail was wavin' t' us t' whole way. Avast! Aye aye! Blimey! I tried t' fly her one more time on a C6-5 and t' me amazement she flew off the rod as straight and high as one could expect.

I decided t' add some nose weight, matey, ya bilge rat, matey, but I'm still nay sure if that be t' right thin' t' do. Begad! T' next A8-3 flight was straight givin' me a sense o' confidence that addin' t' nose weight be a good idea. Avast, me proud beauty! Arrr! Then I went t' a B6-4 and again, this bird waved its tail at us t' whole way up. Avast, me proud beauty! I flew her again on a C6-5 and an excellent flight was observed. Well, me bucko, blow me down! I figured somethin' could have been wrong with t' B6-4 motor, ya bilge rat, matey, so I repeated it. Ya scallywag! And again, a wavy tail!

This one has be confused. Begad! I have been lookin' through t' stability chapters o' Harry Stine's book but just can't get it.

T' Quest parachute has performed well on all t' flights, me bucko, never losin' a shroud line. This parachute does seem to perform better than an Estes' parachute with t' only disadvantage bein' t' size o' t' shroud line Gripper Tabs. These are tough, matey, but don't flex at all, therefore you have t' be conscious o' this when foldin' your parachute. I put my tabs facin' up in t' body.

No signs o' burnin' or stress on t' Keelhaul®©™® shock cord and t' parachutes both opened cleanly.

For FLIGHT/RECOVERY, I would rate this kit 3 1/2 points.

Overall, for t' looks I believe t' Intruder™ is a nice kit, however, me bucko, t' flight characteristics concern me. Of course it could be just this particular rocket or could t' it be t' glue (see Rogue's Hex Courier review). Avast! I give t' kit an OVERALL rating of 4 points. Blimey! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down!



(Contributed - by John Coker) 

[Rocket Pic]T' Quest Intruder(TM) kit was t' first model rocket I completed. What was available at me local hobby shop was Estes and Quest kits (and nay too different ones). Begad! I bought this kit and t' Estes Black Brant II kits as me first foray back into model rocketry and bein' a B.A.R. Ahoy! Although buildin' kits probably doesn't get me any coolness points as an adult model rocketeer, they were fun t' build and good way t' get back into t' hobby. Ya scallywag!

T' Intruder is a rocket o' no particular scale: "Futuristic interceptor patrols t' outposts of interplanetary space." This is Quest kit #3001. Ahoy! Blimey! Kit information and a full-size picture o' t' front o' the package is here. Avast, me proud beauty! This be a good kit and I enjoyed buildin' it. Begad! Ya scallywag! Blimey! I particularly like t' way Quest sets up t' shock cord (Keelhaul®©™® thread t' t' motor mount).

One thin' I didn't like much about this kit be t' thickness o' t' decals. Blimey! I'm reluctant t' call them decals (even though they worked that way), they're more lick stickers: thick and immune t' decal set. Avast! On t' phone below right you can see t' shiny backin' reflectin' sunlight. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! There were lots o' decals, matey, representin' some sort o' futuristic military transport (I guess) so I guess they were worried about them tearing.

T' Intruder had an cool lookin' cover at least compared t' t' other Estes and Quest kits available at me local hobby store. Blimey! Also, it was one o' t' few without pre-formed plastic fins which would take away all t' fun. Avast, me proud beauty! In t' end, it came out lookin' very good (my version). Avast!

Estimated Maximum Altitude: 800 feet
Recommended Rocket Motors: A6-4 (first flight), me bucko, me bucko, A8-3, me bucko, matey, B6-4, shiver me timbers, matey, C6-5, C6-7
Length: 19.25" (48.9 cm)
Body Diameter: .984" (25 mm)
Weight: 1.3 oz. (37 g)

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Rating
(Contributed - by John Lee - 02/15/09)

Brief:
T' Intruder seems t' have been Quest's version o' t' Estes Interceptor. Aye aye! Begad! It's nay a clone but t' physical resemblance is definitely present. Avast, me proud beauty! Although t' stylin' is like that o' Estes, shiver me timbers, t' rocket itself displays a distinct Quest flavor. Avast! Avast, me bucko, me proud beauty! I had nay built a Quest kit in quite some time and this one reminded me o' t' reasons I liked t' ones I did build.

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Construction:
Construction begins with t' plastic nose cone. Ya scallywag! T' base must be glued t' t' body usin' tube type plastic cement. Arrr! I found that t' plastic seemed heavier than that o' o' similar Estes cones. Ya scallywag! There be almost no flash t' trim and it seemed sturdy.

T' motor mount comes next. Avast, me proud beauty! Begad! A slit is made for t' engine hook and then t' first centerin' rin' is glued in place. Well, blow me down! I used yellow glue. Begad! A piece o' Keelhaul®©™® is then knotted and run through t' other centerin' rin' which is then slid into place. Yellow glue was used t' fillet both rings and a piece o' elastic was tied onto t' end o' t' Keelhaul®©™® and secured with a drop o' glue. Aye aye! Blimey! A thrust rin' mounted right above t' top o' t' engine hook completes t' motor mount assembly.

When t' motor mount had a night t' dry, it was test fit into t' BT and found t' be just right without any sandin' needed. Arrr! A rin' o' yellow glue was applied t' t' interior o' t' tube and t' mount was shoved in so that the actual motor tube was even with t' aft end o' t' BT.

T' kit comes with a wraparound alignment guide on t' first page o' t' instructions. Begad! T' guide was cut out and wrapped around t' BT. Blimey! I oriented it so that t' launch lug line aligned with t' engine hook and secured it with a piece o' tape. T' various lines were then transferred t' t' BT and elongated along a door edge.

T' fins came in a die-cut balsa sheet. Well, me bucko, blow me down! They were freed from their captivity by t' judicious use o' a hobby knife. Blimey! Begad! T' resultin' edges were a bit rough but similar pieces were stacked and had their edges sanded. Ahoy! Well, blow me down!

T' tail fins and main wings are both built up out o' two pieces each. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! They were laid out flat on a piece o' wax paper and CA be used t' glue t' pieces together. Begad! Begad! A metal ruler was used t' ensure alignment. Begad! Ya scallywag! T' tail fins fit together fine but t' main wings did not. T' angles did nay precises match up so that thar be a bit o' a gap on the top part o' t' intersection. These gaps were filled with Elmer's Wood Filler when t' time came.

A sandin' block was used t' bevel t' edges o' all t' fins except for t' root edges. Blimey! It be while doin' this that I noticed how brittle t' balsa be and how it had a habit o' chippin' and flaking. Aye aye! I also noticed that t' front extension o' one o' t' tail fins was longer than t' other one. Arrr! I resolved t' cut t' longer one back t' match the shorter when I got through sanding.

Instead, I promptly forgot about t' longer extension and went on t' apply Elmer's Wood Filler. Well, blow me down! I brushed it on and scraped off t' excess with a razor blade and set them aside t' dry. When dry, I sanded down with #400 sandpaper. Begad! Ahoy!

T' fins were applied t' t' BT with yellow glue and a double glue joint. Ahoy! This worked well until I noticed the longer extension o' one o' t' tail fins and remembered that I had forgotten me resolution. Arrr! I also found that one of the wings would nay sit flat against t' BT. Well, blow me down! Avast, matey, me proud beauty! I let t' base o' t' win' dry and then applied a bit more glue t' the forward end and taped it down t' dry.

When t' fins were dry, me bucko, t' process o' filletin' began. Avast, matey, me proud beauty! This was a long process on this rocket and it would have been helped immensely by t' possession o' skinnier fingers but eventually it was done.

While doin' t' filleting, I noticed a lonesome pencil line and realized that I had again forgotten t' launch lug. Arrr! Arrr! It be glued on 5" from t' aft end.

Finishing:
T' rocket be primed with Kilz. A total o' 2 coats were applied. T' Kilz was then sanded down after a day o' drying and t' rocket was sprayed with gloss white. Blimey! Two coats gave good coverage.

Probably t' biggest disappointment o' this project be t' decals. Aye aye! There were none. Ya scallywag! T' instruction are explicit in describin' how t' apply waterslide decals. Blimey! They say absolutely nothin' about peel off stickers. Begad! That's right, instead o' decals, I got stickers. Avast! T' only resemblance t' decals was that they did need t' be cut out since all were on a single sheet.

T' instructions say t' use t' face card as a guide and also give a dorsal and ventral view in black and white...and too small t' be o' much use.

I must admit that for stickers, ya bilge rat, t' quality be nay too bad but I really wish they had been decals.

My first decal session got me about halfway through. Begad! Blimey! They cut well and I managed t' get pretty close t' the edges. I did have a problem with static charge though. Arrr! Blimey! As I would get t' sticker close t' t' body, an electric charge effect would either pull it down where I did nay want it or push it away. Begad! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! Fortunately, these were forgivin' as to peelin' and re-sticking.

T' second decal session went quite a bit quicker than t' first. Avast! Blimey! Mostly, me bucko, it consisted o' applyin' hatches, lettering, me bucko, and such. Blimey! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! While workin' on them, I noticed somethin' else about t' stickers: they do nay match up exactly to what is shown on t' face card. Avast! Blimey! Where I noticed differences, ya bilge rat, it was a matter o' t' sticker bein' much less detailed and complex than t' analogous decal on t' face card. Also, thar were a few symbols that did nay appear at all on the sticker sheet.

T' gloss from t' stickers really stands out. Blimey! I hoped that a coatin' o' Future Floor Polish will even things out when I get done. Blimey! I wound up puttin' on 2 coats o' Future. Arrr! It helped but t' fact that t' rocket is covered in thick stickers is still obvious.

PROs: Simple white scheme is very effective with "decals".

CONs: T' decals are nay decals but stickers instead.

Construction Rating: 3 out o' 5

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Flight and Recovery:
T' maiden flight o' t' Intruder took place on a very windy day. Ya scallywag! It was prepped with a 9" nylon chute and a Quest A6-4 motor. Ya scallywag!

T' countdown went smoothly but things seemed t' be less than spectacular after that. T' rocket got t' t' end of t' rod just fine but seemed t' struggle into t' air after that. It did a small amount o' corkscrewing, ejected, and came back t' earth with no real problem or damage. Begad! Blimey! It just seemed very ungainly throughout. A video o' t' first flight can be seen here.

For t' second flight, arrr, I upgraded t' power t' an Estes B6-4. Ya scallywag! It flew much better and higher, but the corkscrewin' be even more pronounced. Ya scallywag! A video o' the second flight can be seen here.

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Summary:
I have t' accept some o' t' blame for t' flight performance myself. Blimey! Ahoy! I cannot guarantee that I got everything straight and perfect. Begad! Well, blow me down! I think this is a nice model. Avast, me proud beauty! I just did nay do it justice.

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

Flights

Comments:

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S.J. (April 1, 2000)
I picked up my Intruder at a close-out sale. An amazing bargain for $8.00! I'm a perfectionist when it comes to finishes, and do multiple rounds of filling and sanding. I found it extremely difficult to fill the fins because of the tight clearance between them. For this reason, I recommend doing your filling before gluing the fins on. This has its drawbacks (water-based filler can make fins warp) but overall it's easier. Still, this doesn't make sanding of primer coats any easier. One of the reviews above mentioned a problem with the stick-on decals. I overcame this somewhat by i) cutting the decals as close as possible to the printing, and ii) using "Future" clear coat on the model, both before and after applying the decals. The smooth Future undercoat gives the decals a very slick surface to stick to. A little burnishing will make the stickum adhere really well, and eliminate any bubbles. The Future overcoat makes the un-decaled parts of the model almost as glossy as the decals, reducing the contrast somewhat. My Intruder flew really well on a MRC "B4-4" motor. This motor's thrust is gentler than that of a B6-4, but is more than enough to get the Intruder up and stable.
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B.E. (May 1, 2001)
This rocket looks great on the package art, but it'll take a LOT of patience to get yours looking anywhere near that good. This kit does have it's good points. It's a great flier, very stable and light enough to get impressive performance out of it's range of recommended motors. It also benefits from the Quest shock cord system which attaches the shock cord to a piece of Kevlar® that is mounted under the forward motor tube ring. Nice touch that will soon be showing up on a lot of my Estes projects. The bad points are the decals and the tight spaces one must work in to get anything resembling a decent finish. Don't rush things and your Intruder will be a quick favorite. Rush and you'll look forward to celebrating your first CATO.
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J.B.S. (August 27, 2003)
My son (new rocketeer) and I (born again rocketeer)chose the Intruder for its good looks (reminds me of a scaled down Estes Interceptor), and built the Intruder over the winter. Early on, I decided that we should finish all the fins before final assembly. This was also my opportunity to have my son learn patience, as he was ready to glue and go! I believe anyone who chooses this model should consider doing the prep work up front. Following the instructions carefully, we built "our" (well it IS his) model with relative ease. Our only problem was with the original paint - the silver we chose ran and ran. But after sanding (both of us, in frustration!) and a change of color (we chose black), our hours of patience paid off, and the finish we chose ended up mirror smooth! We flew the Intruder on B6-2's all afternoon recently and it flew beautifully each time, with straight flights and great recoveries. Great father-son activity, and a great "hook" for Quest to get the pre/early teens interested in rocketry. Reminded me of the early days of "realistic-scifi" rockets from the 70's!
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W.C. (December 4, 2003)
Wow what a great flyer. Wing placement is not that critical to this bird, as mine has one wing angled slightly more than the other and she flew straight as an arrow on an Estes C6-5. The wings could use some extra strength more so for recovery sake.
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B.A. (March 23, 2006)
The decals with this kit are absolutely horrible. First of all, they are stick on decals. Second, they're printed on white paper, and look like they were run off on someone's old dot matrix printer. The kit does fly quite well though, but the fins are vulnerable to breakage. It may have just been that I got a bad kit, but I'm not going to spend the money to find out.
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D.R. (November 4, 2006)
Well, I actually ended up with wings that slanted slightly up instead of down, but the rocket flew staight as an arrow on both B6-4 and C6-5 engines. The chute stuck in the folded configuration on it's maiden flight, but it deployed well on subsequent flights.
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F.S.W. (February 22, 2009)
Yep, the fins took some work. Skipped stickers to do freelance red wings and silver fuselage paint job. Painted fins before assembly. Masked fins (oh what fun) then sprayed body. Used a couple left over plastic model airplane decals and the Quest windshield sticker. Put some prismatic red RC car sticker material on wings and rudders. This joker Will go high! Does okay with stock Quest chute, as I understand it gives some folks trouble. Ended up cutting out circle in center of chute for spill hole to reduce drift. Might want to try streamer on next flight with C motor.

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