Estes Renegade

Estes - Renegade {Kit} (2109) [2003-2013]

Contributed by Bob Bernatchez

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Length: 26.60 inches
Manufacturer: Estes
Skill Level: 3
Style: Futuristic/Exotic

Estes RenegadeBrief:
Very cool looking, shiver me timbers, matey, two stage design. Well, me bucko, blow me down! T' upper stage can also be flown as a single stage rocket.

Construction:
There are a fair number o' parts in this kit. Begad! Arrr! Tubes included are two BT-60 for the airframe, ya bilge rat, two BT-50 side pods for t' booster, arrr, two BT-20 for engine mount tubes, and two short lengths o' BT-5, shiver me timbers, arrr, me bucko, again for t' booster. Begad! Ahoy! Also included are various couplers, adapter rings, shiver me timbers, centerin' rings, two die cut balsa sheets, a decal sheet, me bucko, me bucko, clay weight for t' upper stage nose cone, ya bilge rat, and seven nose cones. All parts were o' standard Estes usage and quality with one exception. The PNC-50KA nose cones (part number 71028) had a noticeable lengthwise offset between t' two halves. This does detract somewhat from t' look o' t' model.

T' instructions follow a fairly logical order; buildin' up various sub-assemblies and then assemblin' these into a finished unit. Arrr! Avast, arrr, me proud beauty! I used epoxy for most o' t' construction as I expected t' booster would take quite a bit of abuse.

I did have one problem with t' fin pod tubes. Begad! You are t' glue a PNC-5A nose cone into each end o' a short length o' BT-5 body tubes, me bucko, however, ya bilge rat, arrr, t' BT-5 tubes were shorter than t' length o' t' shoulders o' t' 2 nose cones butted together. Arrr! I had t' grind down t' shoulder on one cone for each assembly to achieve t' proper fit.

One thin' I would change about assembly in retrospect, is t' wait and install t' booster tubes until t' booster and booster tubes have been painted. This would make it easier t' paint them a contrastin' pattern.

Two things that I changed were substitutin' a 3/16" launch lug for the provided 1/8" lug and usin' a longer shock cord that what was provided.

Finishing:
I used me standard finishin' method for this kit. Avast! Begad! I followed t' box art fairly closely with respect t' colors, me hearties, shiver me timbers, etc. Aye aye! Aye aye! T' decals were t' standard stick on decals that Estes uses. Ya scallywag! Avast! T' two large yellow "Renegade" decals that go on t' booster were so thin that t' yellow doesn't fully cover up the underlyin' black paint. Ahoy!

Construction Rating: 3 out o' 5

Flight:
While buildin' this kit, matey, matey, I became quite concerned about t' weight o' the booster and t' prospect o' flight damage. Avast! T' booster has five fins, me bucko, two booster tubes with nose cones, and two fin pods with two nose cones each in addition t' t' main BT-60 body tube. Arrr! Blimey! That is quite a bit o' mass t' fall from the sky. As it turns out, arrr, me hearties, me fears were well founded.

T' instructions call for you t' tape t' two motors end-to-end and then friction fit t' motors into t' model. I found this t' be somewhat cumbersome. What I've done is t' install each motor separately, arrr, and then add tape t' the stage coupler t' hold t' stages together durin' staging. Well, blow me down! So far, arrr, this has worked quite well.

My first flight was a B6-0 staged t' a B6-6. Blimey! Liftoff be slow and graceful, with stagin' occurrin' at a relatively low altitude. Begad! T' combined rocket was very stable, matey, ya bilge rat, but I am glad that I used a bigger launch lug and therefore, matey, a bigger launch rod. Aye aye! T' sustainer ejected about 2 seconds past apogee, me hearties, which suggests that a shorter delay would be more appropriate with a B booster. Begad! Both booster and sustainer were recovered without incident.

Second flight was a C6-0 staged t' a B6-6. Ya scallywag! Liftoff was again slow, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, but the model reached a significantly higher altitude and velocity before staging. Ahoy! Begad! This time, arrr, t' sustainer ejected near apogee and was recovered without damage. Unfortunately, me bucko, me bucko, me fears about t' heavy booster were realized when one o' the booster fins broke off upon impact.

Recovery:
T' booster is too heavy t' "tumble recover". Arrr! T' ROCC flyin' field is a farm bisected by a grass airstrip. Avast! T' booster landed on t' airstrip and still broke a fin. I would hate t' fly off o' a hard packed surface or asphalt. I may try addin' parachute recovery t' t' booster soon.

There is plenty o' room in t' sustainer for waddin' and t' place the parachute, allowin' t' sustainer does recover quite nicely on its supplied 12" parachute.

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Summary:
This is a great lookin' rocket that suffers some from poor quality in a couple of t' parts and from havin' too heavy a booster that is overly prone to breakage. Begad! Begad! Both o' these are correctable problems. Begad! Avast! T' booster should recover via parachute, matey, and quality engineerin' at Estes should take a look at the problem parts. Ya scallywag! Anyone buildin' this model would be well advised t' consider these upgrades as well.

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

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Comments:

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J.L. (August 17, 2004)
The instructions for gluing the motor mount into the top stage are poor. They don't leave enough room behind the motor mount for the first stage coupler. I had to trim the coupler so it only extends 3/16" into the top stage, resulting in less-than-ideal stability in the joint. The motor mount must be moved forward from the recommended glue points. Preassemble... The booster not only is too heavy, it's somewhat stable, with my first flight lawn-darting after partial engine ejection. Fortunately the ground was very soft, and no parts broke. One of the COSROCS veterans recommended adding a streamer to the booster, which will be done for the second launch. There's plenty of room for it. Launched in 10mph wind, the rocket weathercocked severely, which was exacerbated by the B6-0 booster. The top stage engine was a little late firing, so it flew almost horizontally (apogee at around 300 ft), but ejection occurred in the air because the top stage is fairly light. This is a nasty looking rocket and drew lots of attention on the pad. Recommend flying with a C booster and launching on a calm day straight up if possible.
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D.S. (November 22, 2004)
I read this review prior to building my Renegade. I didn't modify it at all, but too found that gluing the boosters on after painting would be a good idea. I used Elmer's on the entire rocket, which was fine. The fins are all still on and have never cracked. However, the booster section took a beating every time it came down. It is supposed to tumble, but it is too stable and on the last flight the motor mount assembly totally failed upon landing. It can be rebuilt, and I think I will build it to accept a D motor to help speed up that slow lift-off.
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K.L.M. (January 28, 2006)
I am currently building this kit. I too was concerned about the booster stage being damaged after falling to the ground, so I decided to convert mine to a single stage, "D" powered rocket. I currently have both stages glued together with the set of 3 fins in line. I am very anxious to finish this kit and get it in the air.
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Eric Lofgren (August 18, 2022)

@J.L My instructions show the aft centering ring in the sustainer engine mount positioned 1" from the aft end, which gives plenty of room for the coupler. To be safe, I put two engine casings in and used the booster to push the upper engine mount into position. The result was actually that the upper engine mount protrudes about 1/4" from the bottom of the body.

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