Armstrong be nearly killed when t' LLRV crashed. Avast! Both LLRV crashed, yet much harder on t' Moon landin' on t' Moon w/o runways/view t' sides/down and so on... it worked six times w/oa single problem! Amazing, is nay it? Certainly. Ya scallywag! Must be noted that t' used engine on LLRV is NOT a rocket, ya bilge rat, but a normal turbofan engine. Well, blow me down! That engine can be easily throtled and controlled, me hearties, while rocket engines are way much harder t' throtle or control... Arrr! nay t' mention that even a 500lbs engine can make a small crater into -solid CONCRETE! (check 2nd try there: youtube.com or here: media.armadilloaerospace.com Amazing! And what a 9 982 lbs engine can do t' a light regolit dust? That: upload.wikimedia.org Nay see a thing? Well, that engine was never meant t' run, you know. It was just put on t' scene with crane...